Holyshadow,

Well you don't have to wish me a "good day", but it would be OK if you faced facts about your precious Labor party and realised that you have no more say in what goes on than anyone else who has one vote every 4 years. Same goes for me.

All polticians are there for their own reasons, not ours. I don't know how long you have been voting, but I've been doing it long enough to know that it makes no difference in our system whether or not Labor or Liberal are in the chair. Politics is not about the art of the possible, as often claimed; it is about what they can get away with. We allow them to get away with too much BETWEEN elections. Elections are the only times most people involve (if turning to up to avoid being fined can be desribed that way!) themselves with politics. As long as things are jogging along to their satisfaction, most people wouldn't miss elections. Consequently, we are getting closer to totalitarianism all the time. Not just from the Coalition, because you dont' like them, and not just from Labor because I don't like them. From both of them! And, also from the Greens, Democrats and other also rans if they ever get the chance.

We all have a common enemy - politicians.

I voted Labor in our last state election because the Liberal member was a waste of space. The Labor candidate was successful, and she doesn't even need the space because she is so useless.

I hope we don't have to put up with this tapp character advertising yet another political party for much longer.
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:08:53 PM

Well since you have no idea who i am and why then really you dont have to put up with me.

At least i for one am trying to do something
And not just for me but you wouldnt know and as i can see you would be another party person having a go.
At least the truth will come from here
real solutions and policies not just extremism and excuses

Leigh,

Good day how are you?

I have no problem with you Leigh, except you come from a very negative place in your veiws on most issues and its hard to debate you on that basis.

Yes we can all agree that Politicians work only for themselves , but some actually are a little better than others..If Kim Beazley had got into the PMs chair he would have made a fine leader one we could be proud of..even though I think these days he is more interested in putting his feet up , he is tired of the scene I think.The great thing about him is ,he never let the cut and thrust and the dirt of politics turn him to a lesser and or greedy self serving grub.

Kevin Rudd, who knows but time will tell.

I just want to get rid of these damned IR laws, who leads it up..I dont care.

What I say is only negative to you, HS. I am positive about what I think. Some people simply call negative that with which they disagree.

Pretty negative, really.

Hs yeah you could get rid of them but
what about those who have benefited like those in mining

dont get me wrong i understand more than you think.

they need to be fixed

email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Australian Peoples Party

but we know labor will just get rid of them even there are those that are doing ok.

what it comes down to is the arrogance of the boss and getting back at the unions.

i have a choice but then again when and if dear ole kevin gets his policy going probably same as kimmys blueprint.

At least mine is on paper as policy

From my vantage point in a service provider environment it looks pretty obvious how the liberal/labor debate is fuelled. the reason is that people employed in the revenue creating work force are simply getting fed up with working every day & getting fleeced more & more to keep the huge non-productive but generously rewarded public service propped up. the former are generally liberal & the latter generally labor