“you don't even seem to know what your own agenda was apart from exiting the door.”

Your paranoia is showing!

moreover, adopting the manners towards women applied to grease the wheels of mysogyny does not correlate with the use of the same manners once misogyny is eliminated with the provision of women's legislatures.

And we all get a set of steak knives too.

it is unlikely that those who label the pursuit of equal rights between women and men as bizarre would be admitted.

Equal rights already exist, by law and practice, and there is also “positive discrimination” that acts as reverse discrimination against men, eg family court, single parent services, and more.
What I labelled bizarre was the way YOU twist everything around in your cries for a women’s legislature, as if it was some sort of universal nostrum, and apply it to totally unconnected discussions. Here, I’ll even quote myself, just so you can’t deny it…

“Why read your own bizarre ideas into every little thing? That's obsession!”

And I stand by that, that you have an irrational obsession, I can’t help but wonder what befell you to induce it, it’s certainly unusual. A classic symptom of obsessional paranoia is to see “agendas” in everything, even the most simple acts, such as holding a door for a stranger

Re: People who won't wait for others to exit.

I take it kicking is inappropriate then.

Rats.

Whistler, it wasn't an analogy, it was an anecdote - and I don't really care if you "buy" it or not. It was something that happened to me yesterday that involved a courteous social interaction with a stranger.

I'm very glad that I don't harbour the rather paranoid delusions about hidden agendas that you project on to others, nor your obsession with gender apartheid.

Good manners prevent me from elaborating further. Have a nice day.

Maximillion, women do not have the same right to their own legislaure as men no matter how hard you rant about paranoia and obsession.

your incessant denial becomes more desperate with every post.

CJ Morgan gender apartheid is what Australian women experience every day.

i'll add you to my list of those on this forum perfectly contect that women live with what for men would be prison conditions with respect to rape and sexual violence.

speak your mind more often when people are rude Fractelle,
encourage support from others.
by speaking your mind here you're already halfway there.

Gee, I never realised that Bronwyn Bishop, Anna Bligh, Julia Gillard, Natasha Scott-despoja et. al. were actually men in drag! Alert the media!
Oh, and what denial? I didn’t deny anything, and I won’t say what springs to mind there, lol!
Whistler, I suggest you climb out of whatever weird box you’re in, and talk to a cross-section of real women, ones with jobs, families, dreams and aspirations, you sorely need an education. I showed some of your posts to some women, and they all laughed, but I won’t say what they thought of you and your “suggestions”, I’d be banned!

Fractelle,
I know what you mean about letting others exit before barging in to get a seat. I also find it irratating when some will not move over even a little bit when aproaching and the young are the worst for this. It is tempting to kick but my guess you are too well mannered to do that but try holding your umbrella in a slightly offensive way and if you happen to stick them you can always say 'sorry'. Some need a gentle reminder.

Jewely,
Good to see you teach manners to the kids and I bet some you get are fairly feral.

Foxy,
We know you are a lady and very well mannered.

All three of you have a good sense of humour which is a big plus. I just bet your kids are well mannered too.

It would be my pleasure to hold the door open for you anytime. Some commercial doors are bloody heavy aren't they?