The old people who went through the toughest times of the Great Depression and WW2 in my view are the most pleasant people to be around.In my business the people most trusted are the pensioners with almost no money.They have the money ready in earnest,while some of our filthy rich avoid payment at every turn.

We have lost lot of manners and true values since WW2 but that does not mean we need a war to reverse the trends.

WTF runner

Infidel killers can hardly be said to be influenced by secularism.
More godbotherers with murder in their hearts, twisted by their scriptures and promises of eternal salvation. Nothing to do with us secularists mate.

manners serve an agenda, from peace to deprivation.

manners grease the wheels of misogyny,
as faux respect for women from men who refuse women their own legislatures attests.

manners also prevent the spread of disease and social dysfunction as with swine flu and misogyny.

manners are curly creatures.

You're obsessed, whistler.

Today at my local store, a guy I'd never seen before held the door open for me (it's bloody freezing where I live at the moment).

Since I'm a big, bearded middle-aged bloke and he was a clean cut younger country bloke, I'm quite sure that there was absolutely no misogyny at work. It was just a case of simple good manners, which are still commonly displayed in the small country town where I live. Indeed, it's one of the reasons I like living here, rather than in a city.

Also, I have to say I don't get your comment about manners preventing disease and social dysfunction - while I can think of some ways that this is true, they don't apply particularly to swine flu or misogyny.

Perhaps you could elaborate, without necessarily referring to a women's legislature?

CJ Morgan, the guy you'd never seen before had an agenda.
so did you.
dumb people make enemies.
two intelligent people collided.

i'm occasionally at sydney airport where shaking hands can transmit swine flu!

a mannered discussion can resolve misogyny.

Yeah, as long as it consists of agreeing with you.
Perhaps there were no agendas, just two people behaving courteously?
Why read your own bizarre ideas into every little thing? That's obsession!