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OBAMINATION?

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obama's speech in cairo
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-obama-text,1,2593240,full.story

this might relate to para 6
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2252
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/LeggeCDatWTC.pdf
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/8608/
http://www.ae911truth.org/newsletter/2009/06-1/index.php

but it seems no one told him

anyhow it is for each to know as much as the seek to know
or not
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/stock-market-dissonance-why-the-stock-market-no-longer-reflects-main-street-economics-the-dow-jones-industrial-average/
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/peace_freedom/patriots_and_protesters/news.php?q=1240607530
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2234
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m54809&hd=&size=1&l=e
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2081
http://www.anarchy.tv/
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2129
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:38:40 PM
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The thread is of huge interest to me.
Its social comentry for a start, the bleating about the man, combined with the leftist leader of Australia thing, read the polls, understand voters intent, its not selling.
Has to be a joke?
Well the crisis was not the fault of both these leaders, we at least are about to get a chance to vote in this country.
If America had that chance?
No doubt at all they too would massively confirm their choice as we will soon do.
Conservative politics must find direction or fade away as an alternative.
I can not overlook ajays continuing search into dark corners, seeking people to hang this world crisis on.
In just months we are going to be forced into an election, by the very party who can not win.
In time , history will record the blindness behind conservatives actions in both country,s as unrewarding and unwise.
After that? Maybe a return to developing policy,s, hopefully.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 5 June 2009 5:33:30 AM
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So Yabby thinks that it all right for the Fed Res to create $2 trillion from nothing and then loan it to the US people and make them pay interest on money that is virtually worthless.

There is a better way.Take the power to create money from nothing away from the private banks including the Fed and let Congress as defined by the US Constitution issue currency.The US people then do not have to pay interest on devalued currency.The money the Fed creates does not belong to them.This counterfeit money! JFK was in the process of creating his own money when he was assassinated.

Belly if you have any influence in the Union movement get them onto this issue of the creation of money.The power to do this should belong to the people.They have been barking up the wrong tree.While we own our RBA,we should not have the likes of Frank Lowy on it's board who with many others have the ability to manipulate the money supply to their own advantage.Since 1974 when we went off the gold standard, the growth of money in the world economy has been expodential and it is the inflation caused by the banks which have lowered the living standards of most Australians.Wages have not kept up with inflation.Only those who could save enough to buy assets which then go up in value have been protected from this inflation,hence we have the dimisnishing of the middle class and the increase in the nos of poor.Govt then tries to tax the diminishing middle class to stem the tide of the poor,which in turn creates more poverty.Now everything is so over inflated we have total collapse.The real economy has separated from our fantacy land of a financial system.

Kevin does not have to put us into debt.Why borrow from off shore from banks who create money from nothing ,when we can create our own currency via the RBA? If banks can issue currency based on nothing ,we can issue currency based on the wealth and productivity of the Aust people.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 5 June 2009 8:02:17 AM
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i am caught between the rock[belly] and the hard place arjay...like arjay i see the absurdity of the same two party system playing the same adgenda[as well as a banker controled fed lending govts world wide THEIR OWN MONEY]

pres jfk signed pres order 11.110[allowing usa to issue yet again its own money...three days before the bankers..via the cia and the marfia,got his own driver to shoot him[google the vidio]..of the full zagruda..[a mason]..film]

we live briefly in a time where truths can no longer be suppressed[thjere is NO ONE who is completly innocen[witness kev in his mobile office ute[and the two billion loan guarentee for the car sellers[as well as the carbon tax..[but compare that to the turnbull into votes[and his banker past..getting 60 million payouts from ther same leweman that fleeced the us tax payers of billions via the bailout]

let those without sin not cast the first stone..we can only take what our leaders say at face value...but by knowing only by their deeds are revealed...no one who takes the proffits inherant of ursury has clean hands

[certainly no polition[nor commentator[or blogger] blogging politics]...its a filthy game,..lying between serphants and dogs[sorry not you two..lol..]

im talking politics generally,...i feel dirty just talking about the vile...'they'..allow to be done to gods people..and gods creation's..[and who is not given to live from god][who is not of gods people]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 5 June 2009 8:53:36 AM
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Dear Leigh,

I'm relieved to read that it was a typo on your
part (and yes, I've made them as well) regarding
your reference to the "Minutemen," as a terrorist
organisation, when in fact they were patriots.

You explain that you meant the "Weathermen," and that
the US President kicked of his campaign in the home
of two of the leaders of the "Weathermen." And you
thereby infer that makes the US President associated
with a "terrorist," organisation?

The Us President was in no way directly involved with
the "Weathermen." As a matter of fact he was eight
years old - when they were active - back in the 1960s.

He kicked off his campaign in the home of those two
people - because they were colleagues and work associates
that both the President and his wife had worked with in
the Community - in Chicago.

This attempt to smear the US President was done by Sarah
Palin and John McCain - as a gamble - that they can
distract the public with smears rather than talk about
substance.

As the US President said at the time:

"They'd rather tear our campaign down rather than lift
our country up. That's what you do when you're out of
touch, out of ideas, and running out of time."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 5 June 2009 9:30:36 AM
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Arjay I know that you are in love with your conspiracy theories,
so won't let the truth get in the way of a good story, but you
always have the option of reading your history, why the Fed system
was set up by Congress, how it works, its various functions etc.

Fact is that profits made by the Fed are paid to the US treasury,
which means taxpayers. Member banks, which I gather are all US
banks, can't sell their shares or do anything with them. The
Fed simply acts as a bankers bank, much like our RBA, which too
pays its profits to our treasury.

Increasing the money supply indeed was a better option then facing a
global meltdown of the financial system. The Fed can once again
decrease the money supply, once this present storm blows over.

In other words, the present system is set up so that Reserve banks
are at arms lengths from Govt, otherwise Govts could simply print
their way out, when they overspend. That is hardly good economic
policy. The very role of reserve banks is to follow economic
policies which are best for the economic health of a country over
the longer term.

I remind you that it was the SEC, the regulator who refused to
regulate, which was the real disaster in the present US fiasco.
That regulator was answerable to Bush/Cheney/Congress, they
clearly did not do their job
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 5 June 2009 9:46:38 AM
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