Foxy “I suppose we do confuse multi-racial and multi-cultural.”

I am not sure people can or do make any distinction between multi-cultural and multi-racial, when one is inherently intertwined and dominated by the other.

All I can suggest is we follow the Anglo-Saxon example, remembering, Angles and Saxons were once different races, who only found strength through assimilating with one another plus Normans, Romans ancient Britons etc.

“In some schools, 90 per cent of the students speak a language other than English as their first language.”

Then for the sake of the students' future careers and well being, I trust they will rapidly be upgraded to fluent English.

I find anyone who cannot read the laws which they are required to conform to is at a huge social disadvantage and I will remind all, Australian Laws are enacted in English and applied in English, they are not translated, with all the risks of mistranslation, into alien tongues.

As to diversity, I personally view Australia’s “diversity” as 20+ million unique individuals I have no interest in their colour or ethnic origins. You will get no effective assimilation whilst people cling to their historic roots, you will only produce the separation and segregation commonly associated with Germany in the 1930s and the USA Deep South up to 1960s.

As for libertines and rakes… we are still alive and well and living in the burbs and actually this one was dining, drinking and dancing with a delightful and very decorative lady of South American/Philopino origins right through to the early hours of Sunday morning (but that’s another story of “assimilation” success)

And which Is a complete contradiction of such whining prattle as

“Col nationalistic pride etc. is another learned mind set/ potential prejudice. One that is superficial/emotionally based. A bit like allegiance to a football team.”

Such a judgmental outburst is, obviously, the reasoning of a lesser person, projecting their own racial/cultural prejudices and inadequacies.

"... this one was dining, drinking and dancing with a delightful and very decorative lady of South American/Philopino origins right through to the early hours of Sunday morning (but that’s another story of “assimilation” success)"

I do hope she didn't overcharge you Col.

Jewely

I don't know where to start - so many posts have been made since yesterday. But one thing I do want to say is:

Haa haa haa haa haa - Col whatever ever happened to your ladyfriend the prison officer? No matter I'm sure you can afford to pay for whatever life's pleasures has to offer. As for your suggestion that everyone become like Anglo-Saxons, well you can shove that where the sun don't shine.

Jewely, ask Col about his Marilyn Monroe ties - according to him he really attracts the laaaaaadies when wearing one of those.

On prejudice - a broad term used to exclude whoever or whatever you don't like, not just pertinent to race, gets plenty of use by everyone, for example, one can be prejudiced to Rugby and pro AFL. Not to be confused with 'allergy' which I am to pompous British twits. I much prefer warm hearted British artists. Sorry, got distracted. Racism is just prejudice against those people who have different skin colour, noses, eyes. Col claims to not be racist, but ask him about the intellectual abilities of the black man. He has made some very interesting posts about non-white people. I can always dig one out for you if you'd like.

Culture and race are not necessarily mutually exclusive, think Middle East - Arabs, Jews both are semites.

As for your comments about confusion, it is so confusing that even people who have similar world views can argue at cross purposes - such as Foxy and myself.

BTW the best way to deal with bullies in the workplace is to keep a diary, noting down time, date, issue etc. You may never get to use it, but you will achieve a chronological record. And you never know - it may come in handy. Its a bit difficult to argue against a detailed record.

Jewelry "I do hope she didn't overcharge you Col."

actually the vagaries of dating sites.... she paid to contact me.. I have never paid anyone for their company.

fractelle "whatever ever happened to your ladyfriend ... " we went our separate ways, on friendly terms...

"He has made some very interesting posts about non-white people. I can always dig one out for you if you'd like."

actually the comment was to 'ethnicity' and the influences of genes on intellect... just as genes influence height (Masai), health issues (sickle cell anemia), hair colour (Celts, Saxons etc) was not the issue... merely ethnicity... I wonder which ethnic sub-group fractelle aligns herself with... perhaps the Irish, the great perpetrators of the myth of institutional victimhood?

but again, fractelle, I will excuse you, you are displaying just more of that (maybe genetic) predjudice you were twittering on about earlier.

fractelle<<..As for your comments about confusion,..it is so confusing that even people who have similar world views can argue at cross purposes>>is an interesting point...often this racial/sexual divide is more a tool of the elite..to divide and conquer the poor/or those deem[demean]as lessor..with the implication of the elites sure supiriority[if only by their inbred genes..[to get them deemed geneticlly diverse..[not pure inbreeds]..fighting ammoung themselve

>>BTW the best way to deal with bullies in the workplace is to keep a diary,noting down time,date,issue etc.>>..thats practicle advice as long as it dosnt become an obsession

<<You may never get to use it..i would say rarely,but as you say<< but you will achieve a chronological record.>>and conspiricies arnt conspiricy when they are simply a cronological record[revealing systematic bias]

<<Its a bit difficult to argue against a detailed record>>...facts are facts..them with the best facts win..[nearly]..every-time...thats the frustrating thing arguing with women...they..''allways''..lol..debate with either facts or emotions revealed by the facts...lol..

sorry i hate allways..[it means different things between the sexes]..but thats another story...lol

that reminds me of a story...lol..some other time

why am i allways doing that?...doing what?...you allways do''that''..that what?....lol

So many posts since I last checked...

That's what makes the Forum interesting.
We may not always agree, but we can listen
to each other, and sometimes - learn to see things
a bit differently - to what we first thought.

I've had my views changed many times - and I'd
like to think that this process will continue,
not only with me - but for many of us...
Here's some thoughts:

After maintaining a longstanding policy of ethnic
assimilation, the Australian government turned to
multiculturalism for a while, during the second
half of the 20th century. However, the latest public
debate, in 2005, especially in regard to the Muslim
immigrants, has reverted to the central question:
how much integration or assimilation should be
expected from migrants who settle in Australia?

This new focus on migrants has been prompted by the
alarming spread of international terrorism since 2001.

There were heavy civilian casualties in the Twin Towers
'9/11' attack in New York (Sept. 11, 2001), Bali (2003
and 2005), Spanish train explosions (2004) and London
bombings (July, 2005). In all these incidents, and
several others, suicide bombers of extremist Muslim
persuasion were alleged to have committed the crimes.
Most of the suspects were seemingly law-abiding
immigrants or their off-spring.

The fear of this new breed of 'home-grown terrorists'
has spread like wildfire - not only in the countries
directly affected, but throughout the world.

In Australia, the numbers of Muslim immigrants settling
in this country are growing fast. Australians are wondering:
Is it possible to maintain one's ethnic and cultural 'roots'
and identity, while also subscribing totally to the
underpinning values of Australia as a liberal democracy?

Studies have been done that tell us that every immigrant
who has made Australia his permanent home has three
distinct affiliations - 1) his ethnic nationality,
2) his religion and 3) his citizenship. It is essential
to ensure that none of these elements clash.

If they do, the citizenship - complete with all its
obligations - must unconditionally have the upper hand.
If the clash cannot be resolved, the citizenship must
be forfeited.