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Are Aussies - narrow minded, prejudiced and intolerant?

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jewel<<Is being prejudiced the same as being racist?>>..interesting concept,..but i feel easilly resolved..by talking about it..[pre-jud.iced..is when we say not to like homo-[sexual's],or football/players who have sex with each other..

racist is when we hate some-one..because of them being a member of a nation..often because of them having some distinctive racial/charactoristic..

[eg i have noted semites..arabs/some israelies]..often have big noses and close together eyes..[for egsample]..thus discriminating against big noses is racist,..whereas liking small noses is prejudice..[or something like that]

<<Is being narrow minded the same thing as calling someone insular?..i like to think im insular rather than narrow minded

[im not sure there oppisites]..gregarious/out-going/dependant..seems to me the opposing of insular..[where as im broad-minded..as opposed to narrow minded..[except where im preduced..against child molestors..[or lawyers or bankers]..i really should pull out my thesorious

<<Is intolerant just an impatient person>>..dificult to diferentiate im intolerant..if i feel they should know..better..and impatiant when i feel their impled or implicite talent..isnt forth-comming

<<or someone who in general doesn’t tolerate anything outside what they know>>narrow-minded..<<..or who they are?..>>racist/prejudiced/bigoted
Posted by one under god, Monday, 1 June 2009 12:55:45 AM
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Australians have a very inward looking attitude. We’re so busy castigating ourselves for own alleged "intolerance", "prejudice", "racism" etc. that we don’t see just how racist and xenophobic the rest of the world’s nations really are in comparison.

Australia over the last several decades has peacefully absorbed more immigrants from alien cultures than probably any other society has done in history. A foreign influx of such a magnitude would have been met with violence and civil unrest in any other country. Yet nobody ever points this out.

If anything, I think Australians are possibly TOO tolerant of some of these fractious, ungrateful immigrant minorities who seem to think that we must bend over backwards to acommodate them.
Posted by Efranke, Monday, 1 June 2009 3:49:37 AM
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“"Antonius' fear of losing his job is what gives the bullies their power over him.""

"YOU HAVE RIGHT!””

This was a statement made by Fractelle, and yes she got that right in my own case as well Antonios.

“But I am about 60 and it is impossible to find new job, plus the financial crisis, before as sole parent I did not have the right to risk my children's future. “

We have a similar story I think, put up with bullies to protect children. And we are both finding we are powerless?

“…When you are involved in the union you cannot speak or promote your personal benefits, it is easy to fight for others benefits but not for yours, I do not like any one to say that I use the union for my own benefits. Do you understand?”

Not really – are you saying that as part of a union you cannot defend yourself? Whose job is it to defend your rights?

“Migrants, sole parents, aged people are in difficult position, they do not have any power for any negotiation, especially in a financial crisis. I was migrant, sole parent, aged plus I try to build my own business. “

Antonios, I have the same problem as you, by defending others a government department appears to have gone out of its way to be extremely unkind. I suspect they did get a fright at how far a Kiwi women will go to defend the little Australians. The Aussie foster parents warned me not to complain. I wonder if this is a cultural thing? I look like an Aussie until I talk.

“It is employer's obligations to respect their employee’s rights, it is their responsibilities to promote the equal opportunities for all their employees and not block migrants from any opportunity.”

Yeah see I volunteer so I’m a bit stuffed, no rights at all.

“The EQUAL opportunities is the biggest lie I ever heard in Australia.”

Don’t know, they seem equally unfair to everyone. Have you seen changes for the better in your time?
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 1 June 2009 9:58:12 AM
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"Australians have a very inward looking attitude. We’re so busy castigating ourselves for own alleged "intolerance", "prejudice", "racism" etc. that we don’t see just how racist and xenophobic the rest of the world’s nations really are in comparison.
Australia over the last several decades has peacefully absorbed more immigrants from alien cultures than probably any other society has done in history. A foreign influx of such a magnitude would have been met with violence and civil unrest in any other country. Yet nobody ever points this out.
If anything, I think Australians are possibly TOO tolerant of some of these fractious, ungrateful immigrant minorities who seem to think that we must bend over backwards to acommodate them."

This can’t be an argument to use, I hear it in my playroom all the time and it goes like this:

“Julie he called me pumpkin head!”

“Stop calling him pumpkin head right now it’s upsetting him”

“But he called me stupid!”

“I didn’t hear that but you will both stop and listen, stop calling each other names that you know will make everyone sad. We have a little girl coming to stay and she wont want to play with either of you if you can’t even be nice to each other.”

“But next door they call their visitors pumpkin head so why can’t we?”

“Because we are here not next door.”
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 1 June 2009 10:07:31 AM
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I was sole parent, I have worked sifts and I worked plenty overtime, about 50% of my income was from the overtime, this was good for me and good for the employer. I did not have the time to involved with the Greek community, only writing online to newspapers or forums.
One time I went in an open general meating from the central Greek community in Adelaide about the pension transfer overseas. In my speak I was simple, clear and of cause against the race discrimination.
I did not know any one there , but strait I elected in the committee to promote the solution of the problem. The problem of race discrimination in workplaces is not only for me or from my fantacy!
Not only Greeks but all migrants stand by people who are against the race discrimination and ready to fight against it.
I seem hard but I am not what real I try to do is to sent the messege that I am ready to fight, it will cost not only to me but to them too. Let's use our brain to solve the problems.
The locals, the privilaged race in any part of the wolrd, IGNORE, UNDERESTIMATE MIGRANTS BASIC RIGHTS but if they knew that migrants are ready to fight for their rights then they understand that it is to their interests to solve the problem. I try from the begin to be very clear on my goals and my tactic, I WORK ON PRINCIPLES AND I AM NOT EXTREMIST.
For example when the interior minister of Cyprus decided to deport me (as dangerous for the national interests) I did do not do anything wrong or illegal. The General Secretary from the Union, (I was an officcer from the union) closed an appointment with the interior minister in the Greek Embassy to solve the problem. I REJECTED ANY DISCUSSION ON MY RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE PEATING WITH THE MINISTER and at the end I won.
I AM HARD, VERY HARD ON THE VERY BASICS, THIS GIVE AN ADVANTAGE TO ME AND IMPROVE MY CREDIBILITY.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Monday, 1 June 2009 10:39:03 AM
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I was sole parent, I have worked sifts and I worked plenty overtime, about 50% of my income was from the overtime, this was good for me and good for the employer. I did not have the time to involved with the Greek community, only writing online to newspapers or forums.
One time I went in an open general meating from the central Greek community in Adelaide about the pension transfer overseas. In my speak I was simple, clear and of cause against the race discrimination.
I did not know any one there , but strait I elected in the committee to promote the solution of the problem. The problem of race discrimination in workplaces is not only for me or from my fantacy!
Not only Greeks but all migrants stand by people who are against the race discrimination and ready to fight against it.
I seem hard but I am not what real I try to do is to sent the messege that I am ready to fight, it will cost not only to me but to them too. Let's use our brain to solve the problems.
The locals, the privilaged race in any part of the wolrd, IGNORE, UNDERESTIMATE MIGRANTS BASIC RIGHTS but if they knew that migrants are ready to fight for their rights then they understand that it is to their interests to solve the problem. I try from the begin to be very clear on my goals and my tactic, I WORK ON PRINCIPLES AND I AM NOT EXTREMIST.
For example when the interior minister of Cyprus decided to deport me (as dangerous for the national interests) I did do not do anything wrong or illegal. The General Secretary from the Union, (I was an officcer from the union) closed an appointment with the interior minister in the Greek Embassy to solve the problem. I REJECTED ANY DISCUSSION ON MY RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE MEATING WITH THE MINISTER and at the end I won.
I AM HARD, VERY HARD ON THE VERY BASICS, THIS GIVE AN ADVANTAGE TO ME AND IMPROVE MY CREDIBILITY.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Monday, 1 June 2009 10:39:11 AM
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