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Are Aussies - narrow minded, prejudiced and intolerant?

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Antonios has a good handle on the situation and it is time that Aussies ceased the self-flagellation for every race on the planet is racist at some time or another for some reason or another.

Compared to New Zealand, if you believe the media and blog reports on racist physical violence below, Australia is not so bad though there remains room for improvement:

1. Just hours before heading to the markets Johnny Zhang was abused for no reason as he waited at traffic lights.

2. Phil Pam has also experienced discrimination. In his case, rubbish was thrown at him as he walked down the street.

3. 10/08: Shannon Brent Flewellen, 29, a former fisherman, from Nelson, New Zealand, and a 31-year-old former Westport man, have admitted to the murder of South Korean backpacker Jae Hyeon Kim in 2003.

Mr Kim was beheaded with a spade after he was throttled in late 2003. He was buried for five years before the police were forced to search for his body.

4. 2009: Bio O’Brien, 27, an Auckland student whose car was involved in a “very, very minor” accident with a van left his BMW and punched the driver in the head.

The victim, Jasmatbhai Patel, a 78-year-old Indian grandfather, received critical brain injuries and was subsequently put into an induced coma at Auckland Hospital, yesterday. Police said Mr Patel died in the hospital at 1.30pm this afternoon.
5. 09/09: Murdered in New Zealand: 4th Chinese woman in recent weeks! http://newzeelend.wordpress.com/chinese-plight/

6. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0905/S00333.htm

7. “More foreigners are violently murdered [or killed on the roads, killed using defective vehicles, sports equipment, etc.] in New Zealand than in any other country with the exception of Iraq. Between Jan 1, 2000 and April 30, 2009 at least 1,529 foreigners were killed in New Zealand.

[The 450+ foreigners who are missing in New Zealand, are not included.]”

I would advise anyone wanting to escape Australian racism, not to go to New Zealand – which has an “impressive” record of racist violence, for a nation of just 4.4 million inhabitants.
Posted by Protagoras, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 5:49:19 AM
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One word- Xenophobia.
And it's written in our genes, there's no escape.
Education and experience can overcome it, with an effort, but it still lurks, even in the best of us.
Posted by Maximillion, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 7:09:15 AM
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Hey Protagoras, I told everyone not long ago that Kiwis are nuts on the roads. I think the point being in this topic is that while driving like looneys they aren’t targeting any particular race.

My little story or what Arjay called it was pointing out that I personally haven’t seen that here. I arrive here and all I hear is the white Aussies being loudly racist. First day of school here my 14 and 15 year old at the time come home really shocked at how the kids talk about the aboriginals. Jen got in a fight the first week because some blondy had a go at an Arab girl purely because she was in her headdress.

I don’t see anything firmly “cultural” in Aussie.

Yes other countries do act the same to their immigrants and worse. The Arabs obviously hated me on site until I could get through I am from NZ not USA then they would like me. Good or bad goes out the window.

What is your identity? Don’t attack or try and tell me another country is worse because I know that stuff. Tell me, as a nation, what is your culture?

If you are going to tell me the Central Coast is an anomaly then I will believe you.

I might need it for my citizenship stuff.

Maximillion, I don’t have X that thing, might be a mental condition… I don’t recognize people physically until I have met them several times and unless focusing I don’t notice what colour I am talking to.

Please Antonios, the white racist Aussies I have met seriously have no idea behind why they don’t like someone of another creed, colour or heritage. They can’t explain it they just spread it.
Posted by Jewely, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 8:41:20 AM
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I think Aussies used to be racist and intolerant. The masthead on the Sydney Bulletin used to read Australia for the white man, Menzies joke about two wongs don’t make a white, and such like, were common back in the seventies. However, if we were to restore our universal rights to jury trial, and total and free access to courts and judges, as existed in Australia before we reacted to this racism, by installing aristocrats to be our judges.

These people are in many ways subhuman. They inflict pain on others, do not believe in Almighty God or keep the spirit and intent of the Constitution, and cannot or will not read carefully. I am minded of the first sentence of the Book of Ruth, in the Old Testament. And it came to pass when the Judges ruled there was a famine in the land.

We used to have judges, twelve of them, to sort out our differences, but now we have one elite effete snobby public servant, in all civil matters and they sentence people too. The famine is evidenced by the beggers and paupers who sleep rough in our cities, so instead of being treated as Christians we are now treated as slaves, and a resource to be exploited. The famine is brought about because the Judges, created since 1970, have become the same as the Roman Catholic Priests who oversaw the inquisition, destroyed Mexico, and much of South America, and will destroy Australia given enough time. It does not matter whether the Priest is a Roman Catholic Priest, or an Anglican in name only. Anyone who judges another is an atheist.

We are intolerant and unwilling to accept that the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is law, and it guarantees equality. If it were not for the Judges who inflict famine on at least 100,000 Australians by refusing to conduct courts, in accordance with the Constitution, Gospels and Covenant, we would have a far more tolerant and wonderful place to live.

As it is we live in fear, and harbour prejudice against our fellows.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 9:12:12 AM
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Like anywhere else, Australia's citizens include many who are "narrow-minded, prejudiced and intolerant".

A major difference between us and others is that this is seen as normal, or even a virtue, by a large proportion of the dominant culture.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 9:23:48 AM
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Protagoras
Many times people are very hard against mirants not because they are racists but because they take advandage from our weakness, who cares for migrants rights? what can do a migrant with poor english and ignoring his basic rights?
4-5 years before for unkonwn reason the printer for whom I was working as assist decided to work continously withouht lunch at all.
By law employees have to have lunch within 5 hours, I asked him for my lunch and he said me no we will not stop the machine.
I left him for two weeks to see what he will do, I think he was ready to block my lunch for ever!
I went to supervisor and said me that the printer does not allow me to have lunch lat two weeks.
The suvervisor came there and asked the printer why did not allow me to have lunch and the printer answered" I did not have lunch too!"
He thought that because he did not like to have lunch he could block me to have lunch too.. For him I was not an employee with rights but something like a personal slave!
This man was for some years product manager there.
I can right books about the working conditions for the migrants, already I send letters to human right comission (federal, State SA, SASAFE) I published in my websites or in various forums.
BUT I WILL GIVE THE BATLE OF MY LIFE IN 3-4 YEARS WHEN MY SON WILL COMPLETE HIS STUDY PROGRAM AND I WILL KNOW THAT I NOT DIE ON THE STREETS FROM HUNGRY!
Do not forget that I was district secretary of the trade unions and an activist for social justicy, democracy and human rights and that in Australia I was sole parent with three children and I had EXTREMELY little room to move!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 10:27:51 AM
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