Woo Hoo,
What funny responses!
Okay. 'Examinator' has to take the cake.
For your advice you should have read that I have a bike license but no longer have a bike.

No. At this stage of life I don't need a crotch rocket – nor am I a ‘veteran’, nor do I brew drugs – and most especially – though having the odd willing partner in my jaded life, nor was I ever interested in GANG RAPE!

Forgive me for laughing but again yesterday I was on the blower to the local cops pointing out that the local brats roaring past our local primary school SIDE-SADDLE, on their unregistered, unroadworthy dirt squirts, at knock-off time.
While meanwhile state government has just installed a power sub-station immediately beside the local kids skatebowl.
In this increasingly Kafka-esque world I’m increasingly confronted by those who refuse to understand concepts and recognize incongruity.

So stap me ‘Examinator’ you have me entirely at a disadvantage –

Fractelle,
Truth sometimes comes out of the mouths of babes.
Firstly, I don’t read headlines but I’m pleased you keep your scooter license.
I agree that you should refrain from bothering.
Does this mean what?
Perhaps handing in your card or quitting placing yourself as a statistic on our roads??

Non Farmer

Your response leaves me more perplexed than ever.

1. now you are complaining about hoons on dirt bikes.

2. You assume I ride a scooter? Why?

3. I have ridden motor bikes and not wound up as a statistic for over twenty years. So not about to hand in anything.

4. I guess from the complete lack of point to this topic you have raised that it is true, as you said you don't even bother with newspaper headlines, just hear-say.

5. Examinator's point was that unless you indulge in criminal behaviour like some biker gangs do, then you have nothing to fear from police.

6. Some advice for your next topic - actually have one.

Fractelle,

Spot on girl.
You ride a bike oooooooh I think I'm turned on(he he) ;-)
Down girl you're taking his topic personally.

Non farmer
Awww gee I was gonna tell my grand children I wrote to a real hood :-(
I just answered your headline question with a satirical bent.
If you read the Qld daily Murdoch All the points I raided were in that at the time with pickys All the camera issues were adults(?)Big bikes, Leathers etc.
We have a twerp who Zips around the streets on a midget bike with presumably his 3yo son perched on his knee, neither wears a helmet. This father 13/4 years on will wonder why his son is either a stat or a menace because of the duel attitude that the law is for other people and that tragedies only happen to others.
The fact that he wants to remove themself from the gene pool has its upside but it's those who they take with them I fear for.

Like I've said before unfortunately the laws in society are designed to catch the irresponsible (the lowest common denominator)and protect the rest of us from them. Equally sadly these dingbats/crims don't wear neon signs for identification or warnings.

Personally when I'm stopped I add insanity to the experience.
i.e. " blow in the bag? why are your chips too hot?" "Did it turn pretty colours go on show me " "it didn't? aww perhaps it's a dud bring over the box and I'll blow up all your balloons for you." etc
I get the odd laugh or grin and even "well at least it's better than being snarled at". "you know this get's boring" my responses are always friendly and we part having added a little difference to his/her day. See you don't have to ride a bike to be crazy.

Dear Fractelle,
Regarding motorcycles. I’ve always called mine scooters even when they were big bore machines.
I guess that I was trying to generate some reasoned comment about the paradox – that some in our society get to ride motorcycles and for all appearances seem like the classic style of outlaw biker – while a minority sometimes affect the appearance of being bikers while actually being more or less outlaws.
I don’t believe that too subtle for a reasonable person to think about and comment upon rationally.
After all I had understood what’s what this forum was about.

It has always struck me as absurd that ‘value judgements’ continue to be made based upon transport mode or dress.
Point being that I believe such erroneous and damaging judgements will crop up in various jurisdictions very soon.
My poor reading leads me to understand that civil liberties groups tend to agree with me.

These days there seems to be too many old farts in their second childhood attempting to recapture their youth.
Harley Davidson themselves are rather concerned about this aspect of market management.
So it is quite paradoxical that I find impatient youth emulating those good ol’ boys chuntering past on their crotch rockets and meanwhile breaking their necks and getting into trouble with the law – while those doing the legal chuntering, under their costumes are usually of the ‘professional class’.
Of course those good ol’ boys with the spare cash to splash on their Buell or Hardley don’t stop to think much about that.

Yep. Dual attitudes is what drives this Banana Republic.

I have a motorcycle licemce too, but I know I am not a criminal cause I am not a member of a '70's leather clad motif wearing heavily tatooed thug club funded by criminal activities.Freedom to ride? What is free about having to dress up like a w#nker in the middle of summer a clone of every other bikie thug?
Ewan McGregor and his mate Charlie rode the ultimate bike freedom journey across europe and asia to the usa, not once in the doco did they mention any affiliation to a bikie gang, there is nothing criminal about riding a bike unless you are yourself breaking the law in some way.
Yes the police should have the power to disolve all bikie gangs in australia, as too they should empower noise polution laws for engines that are too loud and disturb other members of society. They should give harsher penalties for speeding on our roads for bike riders and other vehicles.
Bike riders are not being discriminated against, gangs are being dealt with finally after such a long time operating outside society rules.
If you ride a bike and feel the need to join a club, how about Rotary or Lions and put something back into the community.

Double standards
I wonder if anyone has stopped to think about vulnerability?

Motorcycles are efficient transport but leave the rider vulnerable in many ways – to the weather, in collision with other vehicles, when the rider for any reason ends up falling off or, whether injured or not, nonetheless becomes a statistic.
Meanwhile their load carrying capacity is limited and the ability to conceal any payload/passengers also limited compared, say, to the passenger car.
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As for interception by police, whether justified or not – the solo motorcyclist definitely has a hard time concealing a witness who might support his ‘facts relied upon’ in court.

It becomes difficult to understand why such a vehicle might therefore be one of choice at crime.
Here, on the internet, are quite a few sites where coppers admit that motorcyclists are easy targets for these reasons AND for their perceived socio-economic status once in court.

Motorcyclists, historically, do feature on the record and for especial attention from ‘Governance’.
As do, I submit, certain other equally vulnerable peer groups in this snakey, selfish, narrow, inflexible, stratified, utterly compromised, little society.