pynchme, would you care to address the topic? Do you think that it is a good thing that we can expect to see 60% of all professionals as women within a few years? Why?

As for competition, men are being nobbled from the earliest days at school. The message is that boys have to be like girls or they'll be punished. Would you tolerate your own young son being discriminated against?

My children's school uses a system of "class awards" which are given out each week and noted in the school newletter. With a very few exceptions the boys are awarded for "good behaviour" and "cooperation" while the girls are awarded for academic achievements. My son for example, despite topping his class in maths, has never received any award for academic achievement, while my daughter who is bright but not interested much in study has received several, for quite minor achievements like getting 90% on a test of multiplication. My son routinely achieves 100%.

pynchme:"Maybe there are more mature women there just making up for lost time"

Precisely my point. They can "make up for lost time" because there is a man somewhere not doing so, but instead working to support her. Chances are that he's a tradesman.

If you regard the historic treatment of women as unfair (and there is some justification for that view), why would you be happy with the equivalent discrimination being applied to men in today's world?

What you don't seem to grasp is that all I am arguing for is moderation. I've had enough of the constant demands of women who are by any objective measure pampered princesses and have been all their lives.

Any process that is set in otion with only a positive feedback mechanism will soon run out of control and I am very concerned that is what we are watching happen to the social reconstruction that is being informed by radical feminist principles. There is not only no brake pedal, but the accelerator is screwed to the floor.

One Under God, for a bloke who said he was leaving this thread twice was,nt it?
You sure twisted it far away from subject.
I however do not agree with you, if swine flue continued as it started we would have a real tragic problem, we may still have.
Your oppersition to footballers is interesting .
Another,s pride in women beating men shows clearly the reason that poster will hear, see and talk no evil about females.
even if that evil is only the truth.
We did well got a few posts, showed interest but in the end maybe it showed us all some have not yet grown out of church,s intrusion in our sex lives.

Antiseptic: I appreciate the moderate tone of your post.

Anyway, IF we do see 60 percent of professionals as women I would still want to know in what professions that’s occurring and who is in charge. For example; one article a few years ago noted that 80 percent of people working in health and welfare were women and 20 percent men; yet men occupied 80 percent of top positions. So sheer numbers don’t mean much; the distribution of power is more relevant and the quality of performance of the people who hold those positions.

Your victim mentality is unfounded and misplaced. Addressing an unequal balance does not rob you of anything except the automatic privilege of getting ahead by holding back half the competing population.

Some students obtain encouragement awards not on comparison with others, but by how much work they have put in to improve their own performance – how much distance they’ve come in their personal best effort. I don’t know about your children’s situation – maybe you should go discuss it with their teachers.

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Women at Uni don't necessarily have a man supporting them. I’ve been sole support of my family while going to Uni. to achieve what had been denied me by policy and social pressure

These things were made possible by my spouse providing care and support at home and that was possible because feminist work opened door to choices about how we could configure our household and share the labour. Making up for lost time is hardly living the life of a “pampered princess”, but again I want to emphasize that my spouse’s role has been essential and not easy for him either in terms of social pressure to conform and disregard for the value of the work involved in homemaking and child care. Single parents now often manage to achieve these same things and I don’t know how they do it.

As to comparing historic examples of discrimination: When someone proposes a law or policy that prevents my son from accessing any opportunity that appeals to him then we can talk about discrimination. I am glad that he lives in a world where he can say openly (and he often does) that he’s looking forward to being a father and to spending a couple of years at home full-time parenting –and he has the skills and attitude to do it properly. I aim to continue to do all that I can to prevent people who share your views from robbing him of his hopes and choices.

I wish I could impart to you the understanding that you are not a victim of oppression by females; but of a system that priveleges some men who profit at your expense. Just like the manual labourer who works in unsafe conditions - it isn't his wife and family who are his enemies. His wife getting ahead can only relieve the pressure on him to provide from a meagre wage. Keeping her down keeps them both down; meanwhile some other bloke is laughing all the way to the bank, having made fools of them both.

belly i keep getting the damm notices in my in box[you wrote many times you dont read my posts /...so ignore them

mate the media is spinning the red herrongs [bronco's locked up because of bird flue, going to play [not going to play, then goimng to play..cant you lot see the spin[anything so as not to talk about the dude belting up that woman

i hate sport witrhy a passion[because its on the prime time news continually[this week the spin merchants got the idea of adding in the bird flue distraction...no one thus is talkiing to the sharks[only ch 7]..

but mate the spin being spun is quite clear..[even on this posted topic..[its become a convo about woman]...its supposed to be about sports/sex..scandles...

this bird flue beat up is a scandle..[but you numb nut sports nutters got no idea they are mind fucc ing you lot into the destractions]...

anyhow take it like a man..[either bend over..[be flexable..or ignore your mates arround the bed watching us..shaking their fists on their membership...

me thinks you elewdicate ejectulate postulate too much..but hey thats just you...im just being me,,and them sports boys are just being the homos they allways were...boys with their decoys

Crimson hell one under God ,if you don,nt want a threads new post to come in your in box change it.
I do not agree with your theory about conspiracy in everything.
But do read you posts, surely you understand Broncos and swine flue have nothing to do with cover ups.
If you did not dislike sports men and sport you would see the club that started this thread, has never been out of the headlines.
Its CEO left his job just before being sacked, and the headlines will not go away.
you are far from the only one to divert the thread, any thread suffers even if it is against forum rules in fact by answering you I am guilty of the same
regards