in the claimed xtian text[gen 1;29]..and GOD SAID..behold i have given you EVERY herd bearing seed, which is upon the face of the EARthand EVERY tree in which is the fruit of the tree yeidinmg seedTO YOU IT SHALL BE MEAT..

yet to govt it will be the means to make children criminal for smoking a plant[to wit cannabis], those legal lawyer types running govt's of australia are the antichist, in a truelly xtian australia dopesm,okers wouldnt have the rules of a drug war thrust on those simply smoking a herb

in fact in the first chaper of the first book[and thye last chapter of the last book [rev 22] mention is made to hemp, even in exodus the bush which was not comsumed by fire[lol] was hemp [indica variety, read ex 25;40, then go see the design of the lamp.

or worse go read issia 42;3.. ba bruised reed..[canna]bis.. shall he not break[and the SMOKING FLAX..[read hempenflax]..[canna-bliss]SHALL HE NOT QUENCH, he shall bring forth judgment for truth

4.HE SHALL NOT FAIL..nor be discouraged,[till he has set forth judment in the earth, and the isles wait for his law

or chap 40[the voice of him cries in the wilderness , comfort my chilfdren all flesh is grassand all the godly ness there of is as the flower of the field... indeed set the drug war prisoners free, in an xtian australia all drug war prisoners would be set free

[but the antichrist runs the govts of the world[thus we make war on drugs not thieves or childmolestors, nor war mongers]read rev 22 the last chapter of the last book[time to grow the tree of life [cannabliss] and say to govt get ye behind me satan

know legally a plant affixt to the ground BELONGS to the ground[knowing this understand what the holy book says[and disregard the unholy law books]the drug laws are wholy fraud[yet criminalise one percent of the population EAXCH YEAR

Antiseptic wrote: I have no doubt that Jesus was a well-meaning man…

In the Gospels Jesus does not always show up well.

Anglican Bishop John Shelby Spong wrote “Sins of Scripture”. On his website you can see:

RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY: "No one comes to the Father but by me" (John 14:6);This text has helped to create a world where adherents of one religion feel compelled to kill adherents of another. A veritable renaissance of religious terror now confronts us and is making against us the claims we have long made against religious traditions different from our own.

Jesus placed himself between people and God. If there is a God it seems to me righteous people deserve his favour whether or not they subscribe to a particular mumbo jumbo.

MATTHEW 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Jesus doesn’t sound different from any other egocentric leader of a cult. I suggest that one who demands putting himself above family is not worthy of worship.

Driving from the Temple the moneychangers [MATTHEW 21:12] who were serving a function for visitors makes as much sense as trashing the money change facilities in the Sydney airport. People coming to Jerusalem from foreign countries needed the local currency to get food and lodging.

Cursing the fig tree because it didn't bear fruit out of season for him [MATTHEW 22:19] was the act of a petulant child who can’t always get his way.

Jesus was possibly well-meaning, but he was also bigoted, egocentric and unreasonable according to the Gospels. He was deeply flawed.

I do not want a government to act in the way of Jesus.

Philo, I should have added literalism and humourlessness to my list. I am all for individual ethics as against societal moralising.

Here in East of Eden we follow the dictum 'do unto others as we would have them do to us', an old Buddhist line I think. We've rejected the concept of original sin because it has been a tool used for control and dominance too many times. Rather we think that mankind is fundamentally good.

A truly christian Australia should be honest, faithful, merciful and should live a christ-like life to salvage his country and the world in general.
Mr T.
www.onebigfamily.forumotion.net

How would a Christian Australia in 2009 be any different from Europe during the Dark Ages, before the Enlightenment and secularism removed the church from state affairs?

Sancho

I have been thinking much the same thing. Would women have to dress like they do in the Exclusive Brethren? With those long skirts and little headscarves? There'd be no women in positions of authority. Would there even be equal opportunity? In education? Or employment? As according to Ephesians 5:

5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. (5:22-24)

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Imagine having to ask permission just to go to school or do the grocery shopping.

And Rock music would be crap - all that hand clapping and 'nice' music. Grrr. And art would just be pictures of holy people again.

I think if Australia became truly Christian we'd be bored sh*tless.