Fractelle “And Col your description of Susan was pure appearance:”

Yes and that is because

1 Appearance matters

and

2 I am entitled to formulate my assessments on whatever criteria I choose and not on those which you decide are important

hence,
my ideal woman is 64 inches tall
a bust of 36 D
waist of up to 26
hip of 36/38 (I do like a little hip spring)
weighs 55-60kg

age, race and colouring is irrelevant...

IQ 130+

and an positive appetite for the wilder excesses

(the obese need not bother to apply as instant rejection often offends).

I am dating presently, several different gals a week, so I see how many use older photos and how the “obese” describe themselves as “average build” – ha

Women are as obsessed with their appearance as men are

And they are also obsessed with the appearance of the men they want.

One even told me when we met recently.. but your hair is different to your photo.. I said that’s because I have just had it cut and she was not an airhead but ran her own national business.

I bet if you asked women would they pay to look like Susan Boyle or pay to look differently to Susan Boyle, all would say they would not go out if they looked like Susan Boyle…

Good grooming, attention to appearance and good dress sense is more likely to mean less to the desperate and alone but it is, after all, why they are desperate and alone.

That probably explains it, Fractelle. Boredom.

>>Pericles: are you so bored since Boaz left the party that this is the best you can do?<<

But in all seriousness, it is a little disturbing to see a well-crafted, but wholly manipulative piece of television being turned into a major "us and them" bunfight.

At least when I was duking it out with Boaz, he didn't stoop to calling me a liar.

>>Therefore, I suspect that Pericles, Graham et al are telling huge porkies<<

And Bronwyn...

>>Susan Boyle was clearly subjected to a greater level of disdain than was Peter Potts. Pericles can waffle and obfuscate all he likes... I've had one apology from him, so I know expecting another would probably be a bridge too far.<<

You had an apology, Bronwyn, for my lack of manners, not for content. I simply pointed out in a somewhat discourteous manner that you had made up your mind on the topic without actually bothering to find out what the fuss was about.

And as for "waffle and obfuscate", which part of my observation that "...yes, Susan Boyle's was more stage-managed than Potts'" is difficult to fathom?

And finally, back to Fractelle, clearly signalling the end of a short but wonderful friendship.

>>They are sneered at for trying to look younger, or sneered at if they simply appear as themselves - “she's let herself go” - as Susan Boyle was.<<

I can only point out once again: who was sneering at Susan Boyle? Men, women, or both?

Ginx

>>I have NEVER heard a female say "God! look at him, he's pig ugly!" Has it occurred?<<

You would know, if you had been at our place when Dalziell and Pascoe comes on the TV.
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 24 April 2009 7:52:31 AM

This really made me laugh!! Thanks Pericles.

Other than that I ain't sayin nuffin!!

Pericles

Your point about 'staged event' was spot on BTW. I just had to work some personal issues and as I said on another thread, I did not give your posts sufficient consideration, gobsmacked as I was by Graham's claim that men don't judge women by appearance first.

Graham, read Col's last post. There is much appalling truth in it. No wonder we wind up with anorexic teens and so much low self esteem.

Which brings me back to Susan Boyle - she's displayed a lot more cojones than many people, male or female, can do.

Susan - YOU ROCK!

An interesting postscript from the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/fashion/26looks.html?_r=1&em

It even outlines a possible chemical reason for the "transformation narrative"

"Professor Dovidio said that encountering discrepancies to stereotypes probably 'creates a sort of autonomic arousal' in our peripheral nervous system, triggering spikes of cortisol and other indicators of stress. 'That autonomic arousal is going to motivate us to do something in that situation,' he said, especially if the situation is dangerous.

Helen Fisher, an anthropology professor at Rutgers, theorizes that in Ms. Boyle’s case, the audience also experienced a 'rush of dopamine' from the surprise pleasure of hearing her voice. 'Novelty drives up dopamine in the brain and you feel good,' she said."

I'll buy that.