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Einfeld how ?

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Antiseptic,

"Why are you so keen to see anti-semitism? Are you Jewish?" Two foul questions for the price of one. There wouldn't be a little projection going on here would there?

Why are you so keen on logical absurdity? Are you Martian?

Protagoras,

If you can get a simple matter like Einfeld's age wrong (he's 71 in September) perhaps you can get other things wrong too?

Those who are predicting a cushy, privileged life in prison - all sorts of presumptions are being converted into 'fact' here - have obviously never been incarcerated. A reminder: imprisonment is the punishment. You get sent to gaol as a punishment, not to be punished within. We did away with dry bread and water, thumbscrews, whipping and the rack long ago.

Now settle down. I know some of you would like to make him suffer to the fullest extent imaginable, but he has been deprived of his liberty, and all that that entails. That's why we send people to gaol.

We might even contemplate remorse, some hard thinking and eventual rehabilitation?
Posted by Spikey, Saturday, 28 March 2009 2:27:26 PM
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spikey:"Two foul questions for the price of one. "

Why would you regard it as "foul" to be asked if you're Jewish? I've already volunteered my own childhood religious affiliation.

FWIW, I couldn't care less what your religion is, but you seem strangely determined to make a fool of yourself over Einfeld. Mind you, you've been determined to do the same on lots of other subjects, so perhaps it's just a "you" thing...
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 28 March 2009 2:37:09 PM
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Antiseptic,

"... I couldn't care less what your religion is..." Then why did you ask?

"...but you seem strangely determined to make a fool of yourself over Einfeld." Personal abuse is usually a sign of losing your grip on the argument.

"Mind you, you've been determined to do the same on lots of other subjects..." Oh dear! You must be feeling the pain. I'll leave you alone now.
Posted by Spikey, Saturday, 28 March 2009 2:56:29 PM
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Spikey

I derive my information from the same source as you do – the media. Clearly the information I gleaned was obsolete in that he was probably 68 when charged but let’s not gloss over Justice Einfeld’s “misdemeanours” where he lied under oath; signed false statutory declarations and forged signatures in order to escape petty fines. He was charged with 14 offences, three counts of perjury, six counts of perverting the course of justice, two counts of making a false instrument, two counts of using a false instrument and one count of hindering a police investigation then pleaded not guilty to all charges.

Justice Einfeld was happy to drag others into his web of deception. Without conscience he besmirched the good name of a deceased person; colluded with his victims to lie on his behalf and those who lied have been charged with perjury.

In addition, the media reported that he allegedly claimed a lost overcoat on expenses when he was head of the Human Rights Commission, having already lodged an insurance claim. Perhaps one should be mindful of the old adage: “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts?”

“Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.”

Your propensity to embellish the opinions of others is vacuous and no, I haven’t been to prison but I have had much to do with the legal fraternity. Einfeld is entitled to no more and no less than any other prisoner.

What is the point you are endeavouring to make?
Posted by Protagoras, Saturday, 28 March 2009 3:25:16 PM
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spikey:"Personal abuse is usually a sign of losing your grip on the argument. "

You're the one that found it "foul" to be asked if you're Jewish, hon. Why do you find the thought of being Jewish "foul"?

As for personal abuse, my comment was a merely a musing on your motivations. If I'd wanted to be abusive, I'd have mentioned your abilities. I'm simply not that unkind.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:49:05 PM
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I love the thrust and parry of the latest posts,
because they're so well matched.
It's educational and lively.

I wish I could be that adapt at this kind of
posting.

Read and Learn.

Thoroughly enjoyable, and not at all dull
and boring!

Onya - Spikey and Antiseptic!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 28 March 2009 5:04:01 PM
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