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How do you define socialism?

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GovernmentsAreTheProblem,

I think that if you look up the definition of Fascism, you'll find it's pretty close to Corporatism, depending on how it's imposed and how it's governed and it's very different from socialism.

The Corporatised West has been politically drifting toward a type of fascism for some time.

It's interesting that the current financial meltdown is the outcome of failed Corporatism but even those responsible are looking toward a socialist solution by having the public sector bail them out.
Posted by rache, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:31:41 AM
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Last years, the president of the Socialist International is the George Papandreou, the president of the Greek Socialist Party (PASOK)
Few years before in an interview about the communist party of china he said that officials of the communist party of china asked the Socialist International to become member of the SI but they rejected of cause the violation of democracy and human rights.
In many countries in Europe the relasions between socialists and communists are very bad. In Greece the communists have better relasions with conservatves than with socialists. One time communists and conservatives created a coalision government to fight the socialists.
It is big lie if anyone think that socialists are communists but equaly it is a big lie if anyone think that socialists are the tale of capitalists.
It is truth that some times some parties, member of the socialist International, in specific issues are worst from many conservatives,as the Labot Party from UK for the war in Iraq or for the extension of working hours in European Union, the Greek conservative government was against them because they was very hard against the workers and the Greek government did like to seem so conservative! BUT even then if you check the total benefits for the most people(workers, farmers, small-midle business etc) you will find that these parties are much beter than the conservatives.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 1:03:24 AM
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Richie 10
I DO NOT SPEAK FOR COMMUNISTS, IT IS VERY CLEAR (My english is not good!)IT FROM MY TEXTS.
It is seemed that you did not read them.
Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 9:03:38 AM
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Dear A Symeonakis,
If you disown your brother that doesn't change the fact that he is still your brother. I am sorry I ofend you BUT the previous U.S.S.R was part of the brotherhood of Socialism whether you chose to believe or disbelieve doesn't change the facts
Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 10:46:17 AM
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How do I define socialism?
With a lot of care. And why would I bother it is a concept only.
Like all philosophies it exist in abstact only (including communism and capitalism). Show me a complete/pure example And I have it and potentially the pointee justifiably raided by the drug squad.
There are no pure working examples at any level in the world least of all Australia. There are do have perversions there of and most of them are in the minds of Hasbeen and ilk.
Ps I know a few good books if anyones interested in its actual definition.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 10:51:20 AM
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Richie 10
Communists are much closer to onservatives than with socialists!
You and communists scare from the labors, You and communists scare from democracy, You and communists violate the human rights You and communists use the war to increase your power, both of you violate the international law and do not care at all for the environment.
If you call the commmunists brothers from me (you said that) then fasists and Nazi are your brothers
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:06:47 AM
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