PALE&IF asked, "Pardon my ignorance but who is Christopher?"

'Christopher' may be better to most as 'CJ Morgan'. He has also been referred to by other names on this forum including 'CJ', 'CJMoron' or simply 'the Moron'.

I hope that answers your question.

PALE&IF wrote, "People from extremist groups have trolled us and famed for years. They use two ids- Actually many more."

In fact, if you had read the discussion more closely earlier on you would see that, I, myself, have, in fact been accused by Christopher of using more than one account.

However, if that scurrilous allegation were to be true, I assure that it would have not been done to mislead others. Rather, it would have most likely been used as a temporary means to get around the OLO limitations.

But of course the allegation is untrue and if it were ever proven to be true I would wish myself to be immediately struck dead with lightning.

I find it simply extraordinary that PALE should accuse anyone of posting under more than one ID. A brief look over the posts over the last two or three years reveals identical grammar, (mis)spelling, atrocious formatting and punctuation appearing variously under the names of PALE, Macropod Whisperer and TarynW, and in earlier times Antje Struthmann and Wendy Lewthwaite.

The key is that in some instances those people clearly have written for themselves in markedly different style, that is why the contrast is so stark and obvious when the material in their names is written by PALE. I refer in particular to the thread in which TarynW purports to be speaking for "Wendy" (aka PALE), when someone else has also identified this as well.It is so blindingly obvious to anyone with fundamental research abilities.

PALE, "people in glass houses ...", and be careful what you wish for.

I'm with CJ Morgan on this (in the context of PALE's contribution to animal welfare). It's contribution is an embarrassment to everyone who is committed to the animal welfare debate. The professional organisations would never write such damaging and compromising rubbish.

If everyone stuck by the rules we have, we wouldn't need to be having this discussion.

Nicky

Now James, reverting to telling porkies isn't going to do your tenuous credibility any good at all.

Nicky your lot have been using double Ids "for years"!

daggett,


I agree with what your saying. I recall another complaing about the same thing. So that makes three of us.
Also when it comes to people making snide remarks about the dead I think OLO staff should suspend them for life.

In our case you only need to look at the posts.

*Nickys every single post is anti pale.* *When 'we' stop posting 'so do they'*.

*No work is done on Animal Welfare by them what so ever.*

*When we resume posting they start up again.*

Not to do Animal Welfare work but to Defame, personally insult and attack our organisation.

RSPCA has been under attack by others for quite some time. Truth is they want to take over. We work in conjunction with RSPCA QLD hence the Anti IMO.
I cant say we were not warned by RSPCA before we started but someone has to stand up to them and come up with something for animals.

Daggett Taryn, Antje, Ronda, Ben and others- all posted in their 'real names'

As we do now under our organisation. The reason those people no longer post under their names was Nickys complaints they were all pale members.

So we changed our tag to post under our organisation.

In fact the members requested it.

Now they are asking for our tag to be removed off OLO.

This is because they dont want any other group working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD to be heard. They want control.

We are open about who we are always using real ids.

The others hide out. What does that tell you.?

I would say to the following people whom we have had contact in the past - Glenys, Suzanne Caz , Dawn, Debra Morris to know that our late father did a lot back in his days to try to get some standards for treatment of livestock.

comments referring to him were deeply disrespectful, uncalled and hurtful.

Help the fire victims and Animals. Do something decent

If not for animals then for your own personal development.

Thank you, Christopher, for reminding me why I wrote the following:

"I couldn't stalk (Christopher) even if I wanted to.

"Once, out of curiosity, I did look at a succession of (Christopher's) posts, but found the content so stupefyingly boring that I have never since dared do so again."

Just to make absolutely sure that that can never happen again, I intend to, without delay, install on my computer Internet filtering software that will permanently block the following URL from my web browser:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=28653

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Nicky wrote, "I'm with CJ Morgan on this (in the context of PALE's contribution to animal welfare)."

So I presume that you have grasped my point that, in other contexts, Christopher has not been altogether consistent in his self-righteous policing of OLO rules?

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I can't comment on your allegations against PALE&IF

Of course, the use of second accounts to intentionally mislead other users or to engage in harassment of others cannot be condoned.

However, as I pointed out above, reasonable people would understand that there may be other legitimate reasons for the use of a second account.

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Also, as I have shown, a good deal of harm can also be done by people who comply with OLO's formal rules and who post within the limits, as Christopher's role in the "9/11 Truth" forum at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=22#47512 demonstrates.

And, on the other hand, material posted by someone through a second account can, on occasions, be helpful to others and help expedite the flow of discussion.

Indeed, many here would be surprised to learn that Christopher, himself, once acknowledged the value of a contribution allegedly made by myself through a different account.

So, again, contrary to what Christoper would have led us to believe, this issue is not black and white.

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The sentence in my previous post:

'Christopher' may be better to most as 'CJ Morgan'.

... should have been:

'Christopher' may be better known to most as 'CJ Morgan'.

Col Rouge asked, in his post of Monday, 9 February 2009 8:27:06 AM (the 167th in the thread), with respect to greater resort being made to satire where opportunity arises as a means to the encouragement of better quality posting and debate on OLO, "How does that [intriguing concept] work?".

Between them, the posts of Forrest Gumpp on Monday, 9 February 2009 3:51:35 PM (the 170th) and PALE&IF on Tuesday, 10 February 2009 11:47:57 AM (the 175th) provide an illustration of how this works.

Just look at the innate quality of PALE&IF's post in response, a quality seemingly elicited by that of Forrest's. At least one of the seemingly multiple personalities of PALE&IF has a sense of humour! This can only be good for the general tone of discussion on OLO.

New and informative factual content is present in the PALE&IF post. For example, I never knew there was a live export trade in camels, let alone of the existence of a new acronymic identity. A CACIA! What'll they think of next? It just goes to show you can learn something new every day.

PALE&IF's post has even pricked my own (pompous?) conscience. I may have been unduly unkind to CJ Morgan (aka the Lord Dymo, the wizard Morgan, Christopher, and other unkind names without number) earlier in this thread, in that I may have appeared sneeringly dismissive of his acute observation in his post of Sunday, 8 February 2009 12:18:04 AM (the 161st in the thread). Much as I hate to admit it, CJ Morgan was right. One of the redeeming aspects of multiple personality disorder, however, is that a new and good nature can come to light, and it seems as if this may have happened with PALE&IF to OLO's great advantage.

PS My 'Camel' laudanum is sourced from Efghunistun. It may have a high Bactrian count, but is nothing like the Chateau P' izz 'Dhrom ad Dhairy' (appelation controlee) laudanum from Eid al Adha.