Terrorism in many nations affects Australia.England has seen terror in many way's at the hands of ireland.Australia seen the first death's of australians in the bali bombings.Freedom of speech holds many key's on stopping terror as people can voice there angers in peace.Terror affects economys and how will terrorism affect australia when terrorism is at australia's shores?.My cousin's husband's sister was killed in the bali bombing's and terror has already come to our families shores.

When terrorism finally comes we will realise just how stupid we have been as a nation with our apathy towards our own safety...from within and to the external.

Internally...theres never been enough police.
The Federal Police and ASIO have always been under-funded.
Because of shortfalls they allowed Islam to grow and subvert and store firearms for Jihad. Maybe it couldnt have been stopped? I dont really know.
And now we are approaching the edge of revolution within.

Towards the external...Australias Defence Department has been 3rd world for decades.

Like old men the 3 services sat under the US nuclear umbrella and lit up their cigarettes and drank their coffees and snoozed off in the afternoon sun while Indonesia and China built huge armies.

Creepily...we even trained Indonesian soldiers under good old 'red' Labor. Trained them to invade OZ.

Australia has already had a warning about an asian invader.

It started to come through the christian churches some 30 years ago and the period of warnings lasted 20 years or so.

It was carried by the few in the churches who recieved visions and prophecies and 'words of knowledge' on prayer lines about an invader taking half of the land and establishing an enemy government in the north.
If you want a record of just some of those revelations my blog is at
http://whatwillbecomeofaustraliajackburrell.blogspot.com/

In more ways than one I think we are an idiot country.

Gibo Liberal governments have equally provided 'training' for Asian forces.

I agree that Australia's police force is sorely underfunded to the point now where many minor crimes go un-investigated due to the need to prioritise and target resources to the more serious crimes.

I would argue that ASIO has always had just the right funding to suit the times. The funding to ASIO and other counter-terrorism agencies has increased in response to the increased threat of terrorism. Funding is generally tailored in response to the level of threat.

Australia has been largely isolated from the threat of terrorism up until recent times where we have seen our level of alert rise from Low to Medium in response to 9/11, Bali, Spain, London and the bombing of the Australian Embassy in South Jakarta.

Gibo: << In more ways than one I think we are an idiot country. >>

That would make Gibo a very typical Australian then, wouldn't it?

CJ
At least Im willing to say something about gross old Defence.

Round the clock, to the far north, in great secrecy, China churns out guns and equipment for millions of soldiers for the future invasion of South East Asia and Australasia.

China builds not just for herself but for a confederacy of asian nations...i.e. North Korea and any other asian nation who will either join her in her outward march, or be co-erced into joining her.

If we click on THE KINGS OF THE EAST or The Signs that we are in the End Times we can read about good old, friendly old, loving old, China.

She will kill millions across asia when she moves...and she looks like coming here too.

Gibo before line two it was clear you had posted that.
Rubbish mate sorry but that is what it is, if every Australian was a policeman, if an equal number could be found for our armed forces, it would not be enough.
China has played no part in terrorist acts against us, few think they ever will.
The terrorists we face use an idea and a form of a religion, not every one from that religion but far too many hate blindly.
We mankind do not know what the next ten years brings, terrorists may kill many but we will continue to go back wards if leadership leads us into more Iraq's.
Our best hope is one day we will all understand the myth of religion is no freind of man.

Belly.
1.
It wouldnt have been enough?

It takes committment to support a country.
More than we ever put into it as Australians.

I dont think we were all that equiped to look after our own country because of our very nature.

"She'll be right, mate" has killed our chances.

Governments forgot about the anti-Bible nations to the north to watch cricket and footy and ave a beer, mate and squabble amongst themselves and dilly-dallied with true defence. The people followed.

Click on Nanking for a view of wonderful asia.

Labor did little on the subject of improving Defence.
I say they blocked Defence and weakened the nation (deliberately...maybe)
They were always (and still are in the background) sniffing around that old communism thing.

2.
What do either of us really know about China's involvment with terrorism.
One thing I do know is that China hasnt forgotten the Opium Wars and the shame the Brits put on her.
Chinas grudges are very long.
Look deep in behind the scenes and she will be behind the western drug problem somewhere, as is her bride to be North Korea.
If she can weaken western youth...the world will one day be hers.

Your passion for Labor is as strong a religion as Ive seen here on OLO.

Some worship God as He wants us too through Jesus, the Saviour.

Some worship union movements (and an old red thing) that once were but died... and just cant be let go of it.

PS: what Ive learned from several years on OLO is that many Australians are defeatists when it comes to asia.

We dont ever give into pagan nations that slaughter even their own people... and make deals with them.
We do proper Defence and stand against them at all times, Bible in hand.
Thats where the blessings are.
We dont ever give into China or Indonesia.
Whilst they build in secret we do likewise.
The yanks wont help either.

Somehow I don't think that the overseas owners of most of Australia will be quietly sitting back and letting the "yellow hordes" sweep in and take all their assets. They could just sell them to the highest bidder.

Australia wasn't actually the primary target of the Bali atrocity, it was the American military specifically and Westerners generally.

The only local terrorist act I can recall in modern times was the Hilton Bombing 30 years ago and that was intended for visiting overseas politicians.

The attacks in Bali made it clear
that we could be a target of a
major terrorist incident. However,
from what I gather the Australian
Federal Police works with representatives
of the Australian Government and State and
Territories on the National Counter-Terrorism
Committee (NCTC), which was established in 2002.

I won't go into any more detail here, but if
anyone wants to know what the role of the NCTC
is, et cetera you can read the complete article,
"Fighting terrorism in Australia," at:

http://www.afp.gov.au/national/fighting_terrorism.html

I do not think Gibo many would bother replying to those two posts yet I will.
Unlike your slavish commitment to your God, my commitment to unionism is not without fault finding.
You say it is a religion? surely you understand it is no such thing?
Once far more than now workers, even children, nearly belonged to bosses.
Our lifestyle has evolved with hard won workers rights.
Without the trade union movement we may still be slaves Sir Robert Menzies openly spoke of the need for trade unions, and wages fairness.
Today no less than the very birth of unions we must watch and be aware, workers rights went back 50 years under workchoices, who ever thought that could happen?
You seem to understand England's sins of yesterday, the footprints of colonial Britain can be found in todays trouble spots.
You however fail to understand the numbers we would face from those you fear.
You would never start a thread such as 33% wage rise to question so many in your movement.
Maybe you should spend some time questioning your beliefs, we can end most wars if we stop claiming some humans are not as good as us in the name of fantasy Gods.

It would be interesting Belly if the last three Labor Prime Ministers were taken to a quiet room somewhere and injected with truth serum and a recording made of what was said.

I wonder if one or more of the three might admit to a Chinese or Soviet handler?

It seems very strange to me that Labor, being so vocal and caring for the ordinary man and woman, for worker and the for the unionist, should allow Defence to run down to such levels as all three did when they were in office?

And whats young Kevin Rudds connection to China?
What do we owe the Chinese?
Nothing...but to protect ourselves from them and their plans.

Gibo I can only hope you are getting help.
No offense but we both understand you get far from reality at times.
It is the nature of free speech that you are free to ramble on.
But it is too my right to leave your posts without a look.
In the strangest way, you invite ridicule, but get big numbers in some threads , just to see how far out there you are this time.
Gibo, for a second, do you understand you are no salesman for your God?
Let me tell you something about the Australian Labor Party.
It is controlled by the center unity factions under all its different state names.
Anti communist side.
Gibo get well mate have a happy life but good by from me.

Belly.
I hardly think you know your own Labor party.
You look at it from the inside...not from the outside or from a spiritual point of view.

Pro Hart was so right when a few years ago he said that communism wasnt dead.

It lives on today in Labor.
It wears new suits and ties and shiny Gucci shoes but the same old stuff is in the hearts of leadership.

Satan still has a hold of the union movements through the original communism connection.
It hasnt gone away.

In What Will Become of Australia by Jack Burrell we see the revelation from The Lord that there will one day be a communist-style government in the southern half of Australia.

How does that happen if communism is no longer anywhere in the land?

It happens because communism lives on in the one political party that had the connetcion...Labor.

http://whatwillbecomeofaustraliajackburrell.blogspot.com/
for Jack Burrells revelation.

I heard that an old christian lady once said she would never vote for Labor because they bring in so many ungodly acts of parliament.

I think more than once, there has been Labor men and women in history gladly assisting outside interests in their plans for Australia.

mattermotor
We don’t often exchange comments but your thread holds a key.

It’s something very personal from yourself to your readers. Our hearts goes out to your family.

If nothing else you have given us a smile whether you intended to or not just reading some of these comments.
Such as =
*I heard that an old Christian lady once said she would never vote for Labour because they bring in so many ungodly acts of parliament.*
:)

Posted by Gibo, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 6:44:46 AM

Thanks Gibo


I think it’s possible we might see the day history made by the Aussie public asking for Howard to return.

He stood up and said 'We' will decide who comes to this country and the conditions they come by. It went a long way to his re-election

On the other hand its common knowledge Rudd won on the migrant vote.
Although credit where its due- The Federal Government have just slashed! Migrants entering. (Mind you those migrants who helped make him Prime Minister might not view the cut in the same light.

Its would be really nice if we could all live together but -
Islam has one law. Halal means lawful. There are no courts to over
ride that. Half these poor buggers coming into this country have no idea what they are in for.
Sure its common knowledge Australia good place mate- no work free house medical centerlink but what they can’t handle is our FREE life style.

'Freedom' then becomes their enemy.

They are horrified and even frightened by what they see.

They live in fear their own kids will go out with the crowd get drunk dress disrespectfully to Allah. Who can blame them. Its all they know.
.

Then trouble starts. Some do make a life here. Others try to spread the word of Allah and save us from our sins

Hi this is my first venture into Forum and I certainly don't wish to offend anyone however I feel I must make a comment on the post by
mattermotor, Sunday, 11 January 2009 11:32:50 AM, My comment is, I really think you should read some history in relation to Ireland and England. The British have been committing atrocities on the Irish people for Centuries and it didnt stop hundreds of years ago. The treatment that everyday, run of the mill Irish people in the North of Ireland since 1969 seems to a great extent to be unknown. No country can oppress the people of another country and not expect the oppressed to return with some action of their own. The actions carried out by the Irish people began peacefully with civil rights marches by students who were bashed and beaten, the violence grew from this and culminated in the actions we have all seen. But when all is said and done, The civil rights marches were just that peaceful marches demanding basic human rights.

Hi there and welcome 'Physcho' Cop... let's hope you don't work for our local police force :)

Don't worry about offending.. it's a given here. As I respond to mates asking 'how did it go' in regard to my chosen sport (Kickboxing) "It's all give and take...mostly take"... so.. put on your verbal armour Psycho..and get ready for the ride :)

TOPIC. Terrorism effects Australia in the following way:

IF... we happen to have a needed alliance with a 'great and powerful friend' (which we do..ANZUS with the USA) it will bring the potential for those who our big buddy is annoying to see us as also 'them'...and if they can hurt us..they feel they are also hurting our big buddy.

Sadly..

1/ We cannot guarantee our own security without an alliance of some kind.

2/ We cannot guarantee that our big buddy will always be 'nice' to all members of the world community.

Point 2 is especially so in regard to fundamentalist Islam.

So... the 'effects' of terrorism in many nations kinda goes with the territory of needing such alliances.

Alliances also mean we have responsibilities to do what we can where and when we can to assist big buddy in his wars also.

THE OMEGA CODE......

do a youtube.. this movie is there in parts 1 to 10 or more..

it contains some very credible scenarios about how an 'antiChrist' type figure could emerge in the Middle East.

Worth a watch.