dear Col,
If God is not the head then the body is not of God. Wisdom from the word of God. He Jesus has broad sholders and wares a lot of blame for mistakes of sinfull men.

Chainsmoker, This is true...the serial killer I talked about earlier was actually very very handsome in his own way... Kinda had the Roger Moore thing going on in looks and style, which people dig.. or did back then.

A friend who has a degree in psychology said tyrants and these rotten personalities are often highly charming in style and very attractive to other people....still that is not looks, but yeh.

DB,

I only just got back to this thread and so just discovered your previous post.

I seriously add my voice to that of the one other poster who thought that perhaps you might be in real trouble here. If indeed you had any thoughts of actually posing those questions for real-life advice, I also entreat you not to listen to anything any of us has to say in response to them.

You need professional guidance. The fact that you would consider throwing it out here proves that this is not something that's behind you.

If you're serious and this is a real-life situation then GET serious.The cops, a shrink... your family doctor could be a starting point.

Even though there are professionals here in certain fields, you need one-on-one disclosure and advice. Deal with this now - cyber-space is not the place to deal with reality.

Yes me too, If some one has attacked you and turned back years later, go to the cops, DB, or your legals.. also go somewhere for emotional support such as family, friend, GP or shrink.

I have seen wonderful strong people leading good lives just fall to bits being reminded of or put back around violent abusers from their past.

I know forgiveness is probably big for you being so Christian but put your self first here...

Keep safe man.

thanx to those who seem to have my well being at heart.

Yes.. it all really did happen and what I reported was only the tip of the iceberg.

As I reflect on this, I'm not sure what the goal of 'help' might be?(as suggested by some).

The reason this is still with me, is simple. It was never dealt with in terms of justice. Let me give an example.

Another person from his same intake, king hit me in front of his whole intake assembled at RAAF Laverton, then proceeded to drag me semi conscious to give me a 'royal flush'.

Traumatic ? u betcha..but do I feel any animosity towards that bloke today? no..I feel pity if anything. The reason I don't hate him, is because at the moment he was pushing my head in..I finally snapped (this is some time after the previous incident) and took to him with fist and fury and left him with 2 black eyes he sported for a week.
"justice".

That never happened with the other bloke. We had been terrorized to such an extent that to respond physically was virtually unthinkable.. we were told that if we did, a mob of 'them' would hospitalize us for months. "Terror" stopped me from fighting back......

Because it still exists unresolved in my own mind and heart as an issue of justice, there are a number of possible actions.

The one I did not mention in the previous list was the criminal.
What he did was a crime (federal) and there is no statute of limitations on that.
If I sought legal redress...that would also punish his family who have done nothing to me. His children..wife.. parents....all would suffer.
So.. we have the dilemna of "punish the many for the sins of the one" or.. "Punish the one for his own sins"...legally.

Romany and Meredith..thanx for sharing, those experiences must have been awful.

Dear Polycarp,

I just had to pop in one last time before
disappearing for the holidays to wish everyone,
including you and yours, all the Joys of this
Very Special Season, and a Safe, Happy, and
Good, New Year 2009.

We haven't always agreed in the past, but I
know that you've got a big heart and mean well.
I look forward to doing lots more sharing of
cyber space with you in the New Year.

Polly, take care - Your experiences (and Meredith's
and Romany's sound dreadful).
I can't even begin to imagine
what you must have gone through.

Of course, none of us can tell much by how a person
looks.

Yet, we're all to a certain extent influenced by
a person's appearance.

Judges and juries can be swayed by more than just a
pretty face: the clothing defendants wear and the
jewelry they display can sometimes mean the
difference between doing time and dodging jail.

Defendants are advised what to wear to court.

The same goes for job interviews - and other situations,
where appearances are of the utmost importance.

The tailored suit, the crisp shirt, or soft blouse, the
subdued tie for men, all say, "dressed for success."

A business suit suggests that the person is not a
rich layabout or a welfare cheat, but someone who
works for a living. The corporate uniform is a token of
belonging to a company, and to the middle-class community.

"What evil lurks in the hearts of men?"
Who really knows?
Appearances are misleading - but we
are influenced by them - whether we realize it or not.