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Apparently building plans are being changed because of fear of paedophiles these days:
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24783997-952,00.html

Should we live oue lives just because paedophile might be around?
Maybe we should make driving past schools illegal. Or maybe we should just build big walls around our schools and houses.

This ridiculousness has got to stop. We should not be making town planning or building policies on what a paedophile may or may not do.
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:29:15 PM
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We are living in a crazy society. Are class photographs still taken?

If I really wanted to perv on children, I'm not going to see much from 8 storeys.

The greatest threat to your children are probably the people you trust.

We are in danger of becoming a segregated society where children are kept away from all adults, very much like Muslim countries seperate their men and women.

I expect in 20 years time we are going to see results of the so called child protection the last 10 years has provided, and I believe a lot of what we are doing is giving children no protection whatsoever.
Posted by Steel Mann, Thursday, 11 December 2008 1:47:19 PM
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More madness. I suppose paedophiles in Brisbane only live in apartments above the fifth floor?

Don't you just love moral panics?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 11 December 2008 1:58:56 PM
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The decision does look ridiculous when you consider how it is legal for the perverted porn industry to feed the minds of every potential deviant on the planet.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 December 2008 3:09:01 PM
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If we are not sickened by this story we should be.
The PC driven idiots behind this, some are from my party, are a real threat to our wellbeing.
Gaol, real sentences every offender but leave us alone.
Next to me live 3 great little kids, all boys 3 to 6 years old, I fall over when they kill me with a stick gun.
Say gday as they chant gday Belly every time I walk into the yard.
Fill their shirts with fruit in season.
Each says some times + I love you Belly+
I walk away,see I love them too but you can not tell some ones kids that.
Give us a cuddle Belly nearly makes me run.
How would you like to be a male teacher?
Lets target offenders and the PC fools who are a real danger to us all.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 11 December 2008 4:07:30 PM
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CJ Morgan: "Don't you just love moral panics?"

I wouldn't of cared until this one. But for some reason, this one has got to me. I will be going to the first political rally I have ever attended tomorrow. Given the weather, I expect to be either washed away or stewed like a prune - probably both, and either way will have to put up with hours of boring pollies yabber on.

These people should be held up to ridicule. Honestly. What other response can there be to: "Help, help! Someone is looking at my child!", other than "Lady, get a grip." One would of thought knocking a few storeys off an apartment block during a dire housing shortage would be right out, yet apparently this Amanda Cooper thinks there is votes in it.

Hopefully this particular wave of panic is about to crest. People are getting hurt by it now.
Posted by rstuart, Thursday, 11 December 2008 7:41:30 PM
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I used to live at Lota - right beside Manly and Wynnum - and you'll find that more than likely this RETARDED paedophile crock is more of a smokescreen for them not wanting altitude development to keep their little slice of paradise worth more. Development like that makes an area less exclusive.

...and those are the sort of people in the area that have that frame of mind. It's like, 'I'm all right Jack, pull the ladder up'.

They're playing the guilt card.
Posted by StG, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:27:51 AM
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Perhaps the architect should be charged for producing child porn.
Posted by Steel Mann, Friday, 12 December 2008 6:52:57 AM
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I was thinking about the story last night. It struck me that Dannielle Gauld, the mother in the photo accompanying the story, must of be in a bit of a state.

She claims she is worried about paedophiles spying on her child from the upper floors of an apartment. Yet she poses for a photograph that includes a a closeup view of her young daughter. The photograph is now on the Internet for every paedophile in the world to ogle over.

What was she thinking?
Posted by rstuart, Friday, 12 December 2008 9:13:38 AM
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Tsk! What's next?
Concerns that paedophiles might spot children during scenic helicopter flights?
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:27:27 AM
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I have been playing with that rather silly line of thought I proposed earlier, and realised you can take it further.

So as before, we start by asking why, if the woman pictured in the story is so worried about paedophiles looking at her child, did she pose for a close up newspaper photograph with her daughter in front of her? And again we note the serious consequences of that decision - since every paedophile on the planet will be ogling her daughter over the internet, the poor little girl may be end up being scarred for life.

It is hard to come up with a charitable explanation. She is either just plain dumb, or she did it for personal gain. Either way if the woman truly believes her child is at risk from a society overrun with paedophiles and then exposes the child like that, she isn't fit to raise children. Someone should report the her to Queensland governments department of child safety.
Posted by rstuart, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:04:15 PM
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Heehee rstuart that's right. I like your line of thoughts.
Her child would be far safer if she locked it away in a dark room under the stairs.
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 12 December 2008 1:13:41 PM
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Someone once said "God protect me from Zealots"
What we have is the "rent a panic mob" that has collectively lost perspective.
Who in this country isn't aware of the threat of paedophiles etc? Anyone? Quick look under the cabbage leaf there has to be one suumwhere? As for actual paedophiles well …. Every male is o potential rapist, wife/child beater why not one of them too.
Then there’s the fact that paedophile have a toxic radius of well at least 15ks. Having them under 24 hr surveillance doesn’t matter they’re there “how am I going to explain it to my 3yo?”
“I know let’s have a protest meeting for all the defiled children…Calling for mob action. (will it help? Not likely) but it will be on TV… and it sure beats supervising our children or monitoring what they’re doing. Well I’m busy and I have a right to a life! Anyway it’s good to show the children I care, it’s quality time… after the rally I’ll be too tired to cook tea I can take the children to Macca’s they’ll love it then home for TV then bed. I’m such a good parent.”
(Flash! More children are harmed by junk food and marketing indoctrination than by paedophiles then there’s the message you’re sending to your impressionable children….be afraid, be very afraid “)
“…Maybe we should raise a protest meeting”
Don’t you just love hysterical Cut Lunch Campaigners? What’s worse is that these escapees from natural selection vote.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 12 December 2008 3:32:18 PM
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It must be a strange school, at my son's school they wear uniforms to school. Even in the pool they wear swimmers and rash shirts for sun protection.

Having the kids running around the playground naked raises the risk of serious sunburn.

Get the kids to wear clothes, give the playground supervisers a decent pair of binoculars so they can look back at anybody behaving suspiciously on a nearby balcony and the issue seems to be covered. It's not like apartment dwellers can easily cut and run if spotted taking photo's of kids in a playground from their balcony.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 12 December 2008 3:51:00 PM
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Took me a while to 'get' this title... but now having done so.. I see the problem.

We are faced (as runner says) on the one hand with a level of sexual permisiveness, of pornographization of our social values, and the voices who should loudest to ALLOW all this, are those who now seem to be shouting at a council for taking a reactionary step to 'protect children'.

I don't see how 5 stories as opposed to 8 will stop a person on the top floor from looking at a playground..nor how people in cars nearby cannot also film, photograph or view children playing.

THE PROBLEM really get's back to what kind of society we want.
Don't call Runner,Gibo,Katie etc and myself "wowsers" because we would like to end the flood of pornography shadowing our every step in most towns.

-Club X
-The Shaft cinema
-Adult Megamart
-Sexyland (near me)

Then we have high profile opinion shapers from Hollywood telling us that it's all nothing to worry about, (if they don't say it they live it)

We have a retired QC and a Policeman caught in the child porn net.. we have had a number of other high profile sex scandals

<<a town planner, Beth Morgan, was involved in sexual relationships with three developers - and received cash and gifts from two of them - while she was approving their property developments worth a combined $135million.>>

Doesn't it tweak with folks that we are rotten to the core and these are only those who were CAUGHT?...

Of course this is the time when I'd normally drop a few verses in for reflection.... but I won't. All who come here can read....

SUMMARY
-fix the politicians and you fix the politics.
-fix the people and you might get decent politicians.
-how are people fixed? .....
Posted by Polycarp, Friday, 12 December 2008 5:47:39 PM
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This has nothing to do with pornography Poly.

This has to do with whipping poor gullible parents into a frenzy over paedophilia, and the stupid consequences of that.

It's about letting the fear of perverts rule our lives and going so far as to change building permits on apartment blocks.

It's about the ridiculous consequences of moral panics Poly, and who is responsible for (or at least like to fan the flames of)most of those?
Posted by Bugsy, Friday, 12 December 2008 6:10:58 PM
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Bugsy
Amen brother.
Apparently my attempt at satire fell flat. Ho hum back to the drawing board.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 12 December 2008 6:23:46 PM
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Poly/Boaz:

"-how are people fixed? ....."

As I understand a couple of snips with the surgical scissors is all it takes...

I was going to take the camera to family Christmas celebration, see how much my little cousins had grown - should I leave the camera at home; what if its a hot day and they're in their bathers?

So much to panic about so little time.
Posted by Fractelle, Saturday, 13 December 2008 1:59:34 PM
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fraccy....I think you either didn't grasp what I'm saying or just went into some kind of daze when I mentioned fixing people :)

The probbbblem....is.....that we have 2 things happening simultaneously in our society.

1/ Increased visual permisiveness in the form of:
-Advertizing
-TV plots/shows/scenes
-Porn in all it's forms.
-"Adult" movies which objectify women (and men) available on Foxtel.

2/ A reaction which tries to then undo the damage with 'moral legislation'..... becoming ever more focused on things like 'innappropriate touching' and the such like...

Laws..laws...laws.. NONE of them will fix the problem..the best they can do is bring 'compliance' from (probably) resentful people who feel they are being squeezed like a lemon by a plethora of laws.

WE (fundy Bible bashers) "feel" this with the RRT2001.. we also feel it with some uses of human rights (so called) legislation and anti discimination law...

But when the secularists feel it with building height censorship..aaah.. NOWWWW u know what it feels like maybe.
But remember.. it's not "us" who are pushing for those laws.. In my view it is just the PC secularist mob trying to pick up the pieces of the social house of cards which is now collapsing around them.

Fraccy.. people are "fixed" by being reconciled to the Father, through the Son, by the Spirit... you may not agree.. but that's what freedom is about. It's my view.... and many share it.

P.s... your post the other day about a reflective Christian was most heartwarming. I'm glad u read stuff like that.
Posted by Polycarp, Saturday, 13 December 2008 7:09:43 PM
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Poly, I'm not sure who you mean by "us" but your accusation against 'secularists' (whoever THAT is) may be misplaced.

Did you even bother to read the name of the school?
Posted by Bugsy, Saturday, 13 December 2008 7:56:19 PM
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A brief assessment of Polly/Boaz - a full assessment would require deep therapy over many years.

1. Capacity for Humour - absent
2. Awareness of double entendre - zero
3. Eagerness to deride non religious - patholigical
4. Tendency to abuse 12 year females - self admitted.
5. Ability for comprehension - extremely limited.

I was making a joke about how the over-reaction by media and much of the public is ruining the joy and fun of recording our INNOCENT children's lives.

Capiche? I doubt it.
Posted by Fractelle, Sunday, 14 December 2008 9:24:48 AM
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Heeheeheeh Fractelle, I thought that it was hilarious. Snip-snip, chop-chop!

But besides the joke, I don't think getting the chopping board out is not such a bad idea.

I always make the distinction between paedophiles (people who are feeling sexually attracted to children but do nothing about it except perhaps using fantasy) and paedosexuals (people who are guilty of sexually assaulting children.)

I can't see why paedosexuals should not be either medically or surgically castrated.
Posted by Celivia, Sunday, 14 December 2008 9:45:59 AM
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Correction, the 2nd sentence should read:

"...I don't think getting the chopping board out is such a bad idea."
Posted by Celivia, Sunday, 14 December 2008 9:48:17 AM
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Celivia

I am informed that in some cultures deep-fried testicles are considered a culinary delicacy - although I believe these are the testicles of cattle - however Hannibal Lecter may have some excellent recipes...but I digress.

Our society still appears to be running on fear, long ago it was 'reds under the bed' then terrorists, now its paedophiles.

Reality plays very little part.
Posted by Fractelle, Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:54:57 AM
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Dear Celivia.. I tend to agree..and I'll call that and raise you one "Let's also snip the tubes of Lesbians" :)

Fraccy.. you need to not be so obessed with me :) it's like some small trigger sends you off into an antiPoly binge then you generalize my condition across all frontiers.

I have a great capacity for humor.. and for social interaction.. in fact last night I was given a present from one, hugs, and kisses from lots of female unbelievers :) even got an 'honorable mention' plaque from a fox sports celebrity who said I'm an inspiration to him ... now..I can't be ALLLLL bad/evil/wicket/bigoted/biased/hateful/fill in the blank.....

You still seem to be thinking I'm FOR this building censorship?.... no..I think it's silly.

But ask me if I'm for serious censorship of porn at service stations and various other places.. YOU BETTA BELIEVE IT! I'd send in the 'porn police' to every service station and fine them a million bucks for carrying that rubbish.

I see the direct connection between widespread availability of disgusting filth and the community having increasing numbers of people who receive the message loud and clear "Filth is Fine" and then maybe translate that into perving on kids from buildings?
Posted by Polycarp, Monday, 15 December 2008 7:37:16 AM
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Porkycrap: << "Let's also snip the tubes of Lesbians" >>

That's seriously bizarre. Get help.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 15 December 2008 7:51:03 AM
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