*Dear Yabby...so you would concede that homosexual attraction is a malfunction in the brain ? Good.. we now agree.*

No Poly, we don't agree. Let me make it simple for you. If you
were born with blue eyes, then you were born with blue eyes, that
is how it is.

Now you might think that people born with blue eyes are evil, for
some wierd religious reason, but then I can't help the fact
that you believe wierd things.

Gibo puts it down to "spirits". Sorry Gibo, no evidence of
any ghosts anywhere, other then those who believe in ghost and
even more wierd things.

Steel Mann.
I dont think Mr. Venn-Brown tried all that hard otherwise he would have broken free.
Theres 'prayer' and theres true prayer.
I see Tony as less than genuine...clinging to the sin as we all do at times...but clinging too much.
He wanted it and now he lives it.

I dont know anyone in the pentecostal churches who calls himself a leader and who permits unrepentant gays in their congregation.

Yabby.
The biggest deception in all of the whole, wide world is done by satan... and that is that he goes to vast lengths to make fun of his own existance... to make himself 'non-existant' by making fun of the man in the red suit with the pitchfork.
Yes... homosexuality is just another fallen spirit....actually quite a lot of them.

SPKOUT.
I dont know your family (I tried to generalise the situation which is actually very real as far as being a 'cursed family').
What I said about family curses is the truth...though it may not apply to yours or your family extensions.

If anyone wants to know if their family is under a generational curse look for the signs...
Going back, down the timeline, was or is there an addiction or trait the family seems or is bound to?

Ive known families where theres been alcohol down three and more generations (i.e. they were all drunks and bashers).
Many families have the violence passed down. Others have the greed or the sexual lust and its adultery.
Its all very real indeed.
Confession of sin and repentence to Jesus Christ will end that curse.

Gay/Lesbian/Homosexual/Heterosexual/Blue eyes/Brown eyes/Black hair/Blond Hair/Red Hair/Short/Tall/Catholic/Muslim/Druze/Orthodox/Agnostic/Atheist/etc etc etc...

All these things (and more) are just wonderful parts of this multi-coloured/multi-faceted/multi-faith existence of being human, and we should love and cherish people for their differences(whether through choice of otherwise), not vilify them for it.

I cherish even Gibo and Polycarp (yes, even as I grind my teeth) for their views, if only because they serve as a reminder to me and others of how much we human beings have to strive to live our lives without fear, hatred and bigotry, and encourage others to do the same.

Great post, Amjay.

What does God say about variety, Gibo?
I mean, according to the religious, He created everything, did He not?
So why would He have created so much variety if He didn't approve of some of these differences?

Isn't He supposed to love ALL of His creations?

I knew of a young boy (2 years old) who dressed up in his sisters clothes wore hair bands etc ,had a pusher with a barbie doll . This child is ten now and things have not changed, I don't think a toddler chooses to be gay. But this young boy has all the signs and I feel sorry for him because he gets bullied at school etc to.
but i also have girl friends who chose to be lesbians after having children and leaving their husbands ... so it can go both ways. but who are we to judge others if we live in glass houses.

I have not logged in for a few days and I am really surprised by the amount of comments received in this thread, in what seems to be a controversial suject for many people.I would finally (or perhaps not finally)like to add,I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that some people do make the choice to love and be with members of the same sex,perhaps because they are inherently bi-sexual. (I believe you would have to be or it wouldn't be possible)I also have no doubt in my mind, that people like my nephew were quite simply born with an inability to to make love to the opposite sex, as the marjority of 'straight' people would find it immpossible to make love to the same sex.I believe It is no different for gay people, other than to people born gay,it is just that,impossible for most of them to be with the opposite sex.I say why should anyone deny the right for my nephew to have a loving,CONSENTING! one to one relationship with someone born the same way as himself,just because those who do not suffer this way cannot and will not try to understand his plight. How would a 'straight' person feel, if certain members of society hated them because they wouldn't marry and have relationships with a member of the same sex.Again it is the same for my nephew. He will have to live with the predudicial views of some people for being unable to form intimate relationships with a female. God made him that way for a reason. He should be able to live his life according to how he was made and love and be loved by someone he chooses and who chooses him.