SPKOUT,
I too, would like to thank you for your beautiful post. As you see, it is necessary to have discussions about homesexuality!

Well said, Fractelle, CJ, Examinator Foxy et al.

I find it rather sad that there are still Christians who don't accept homosexuality and who question other Christians who have no problem with homosexuality.

How come some Christians (Runner, Gibo, Poly) claim that they're followers of Jesus and love him when they deny this progressive spirit the freedom to keep up with times?
If *I* were a Christian, I would love Jesus enough to not to force Him to remain frozen in His time.
I would like Him to be free, have space, and all the info at hand to update His view as more information about homosexuality became available.

Or do you think that Jesus should be forced to ignore the new knowledge about homosexuality?

Besides,
In in Matthew 7:12: "Always treat others as you would like them to treat you".

So please, Christians, when someone comes on our forum to talk about the pain and rejection her sister and nephew are experiencing, why don't you reach out and try to show some understanding by treating Spkout as you would want to be treated if you came here to tell your story about something that is painful to you.

Homosexuality is not a choice for some, it is their natural inclination. For others it is fully a matter of choice. And for others it is a compromised matter of choice after their first choice failed, ie; considering homosexuality to be better than asexuality after heterosexuality has proven to be unsuccessful.

But.... what does it matter if it is a choice or not?

Vive le difference in human sexuality!

All the best SPKOUT.

Thankyou all for taking the time to reply to my post .Thankyou mainly to those who are enlightened enough regarding the subject to give a positive and understanding reply.To those who believe homosexuality is a choice and even if the desire is there, if you believe in God then the desire or wish to act on the desire will end, I say walk in the shoes for a day.Ofcourse the latter is a belief that holds no substance for my nephew, having explained to his mother that he has the ability to love the opposite sex and absolutely no ability to make love to the opposite sex.He said to her can you imagine making love to another woman,then for me it the same as if I was to do this.It just feels disgusting!He is born this way due to hormonal influences in the womb,should he be denied the love he is capable of sharing?After all God is love.God would never deny love in whatever respect, as long as it was between consenting adults who suffer the same issues in life regarding their sexual orientation.Also to compare this type of love between to consenting adults,with adult abuse of children is an abomination.
Until you have walked on the path and truely shared the pain of those in my nephews situation,which is what christians are expected to do, your judgement may be valid in your own eyes, but really you know nothing of true life at all.

CJ, ditto.

mjpb, encouraging signs of compassion, perhaps even understanding.

SPKOUT, when I told my parents twenty years ago that I was gay, they were shocked, disappointed and afraid, both for themselves and for me. It didn't take them long to notice that while contact with my siblings normally involved my parents providing childcare for the grandchildren, I was coming by to spend time with them. We’ve had many joyful times together, and the shock of my coming out diminished our love for each other not one bit.

Love is greater than pre-conceptions, more powerful than neighbours’ opinions, stronger than homophobia and prejudice. Your nephew’s openness has allowed him, your sister and your brother-in-law the opportunity for great joy and sharing, if they have the will to grab it.

Even better, the world your nephew is growing into is a much fairer and more accepting place these days – your sister and her husband don’t have to give up the hope of grandchildren just because their son is gay. They don’t have to describe him in euphemisms, and quietly ignore it when he’s not invited to family gatherings.

I wish every fulfilment to all of you, and I thank you for the concern that brought you to share your story here. Your caring in this way speaks of great love.

*Much prayer likewise saves the day.*

Ah Gibo, if only life were so simple. I remind you that when the
last pope was crook, hundreds of millions prayed. He still fell
off the proverbial perch.

On this topic there is actually an amusing story, which I read about
some years ago. Some Christians formed a "reformed gays for Jesus" group
as they thought that people could be re-educated. To cut a long
story short, the two guys who founded it and ran it, eventually
ran off with one another :)

So lets look at the Science here. We know that attraction involves
instinct and brain chemistry. To come back to biology, when even
our religious friends have an erection, is not because they decide
to have one, it happens naturally, or instinctively.

What we know about the brain, which is where it all happens, is
that we basically all start as females. As the foetus develops,
male brains are flooded with testosterone, which masculanises
those brains. If there is an interruption of these hormones at
the stage of early foetal developement, (like mommy is stressed or
whatever), this shows later on in the life of the individual. The
Russians did alot of work on this, back in the old days of the
Soviet Union etc.

To cut it short, we can create gay rats in the lab, by fiddling
with brain chemistry that affect the developing foetus.

Now we can't take humans and do the same experiments, it would
be unethical. But what we can deduct from all this is that
sexual leanings have a genetic/development of the foetus basis
and for Christians to claim that people should just wish away
their sexuality or pray it away, is pure fantasy stuff.