I would rather go down the proverbial dunny with someone who has a passionate belief and work ethic exhibited by Julia,than this poncy boy pretender that trips around the planet announcing his own self importance!Kevin Rudd is nothing but the "Cliche Kid".

The Cliche Kid is tough and strong,the Cliche kid eats "Me Too Bars"
And that is the sum of his song!

Julia for PM? No thanks. We already have enough problems with Big Kev the Colgate commercial.

Well Arjay, labor now have an enviable record of promoting dropkick women to leadership. Three out of three so far, almost as good as they are doing with the men.

Adding Julia to the list would certainly keep that record intact. Affirmative action, taken at its ultimate I suppose.

Leadership is not something labor has done too well, in the last 15 years or so. Perhaps they are trying to outdo the Queensland Libs, in that department

All views have value.
Even minority ones.
These are clearly very much minority ones.
I found value in them.
On a sad day, leaving for a long drive.
To a memorial day for dead workers.
I leave laughing!
I get great joy in seeing such pain.
And know after our next win I will see even more of it!

Arjay,
Insults don't make your case simply demonstrate the closed nature of your thought process'. Thereare better more accurate way to discuss an issue. You are smarter than your seed posting would suggest.

Hasbeen,
I think you mean unenviable record. Likewise some sensible argument as to Julia's POLITICAL failures is appropriate. Not painting her with your perception of OTHER labour women or attacking her as a person by inference ie my neighbour is a conservative like you and is an idiot does that mean you are too? I doubt it.
I would point out both sides of the house have had their "what were they thinking" promotions but in no way reflect on the current crop.They should be judged fairly on their own merits. Anything else is simply bias and hyperbole. I look forward to your REASONING.
I'm simply undecided on the issue at the moment.

Gillard as a political performer is at least the equal of Peter Costello (and probably even better). Whether she has the capacity to actually make a difference "on the ground", only time will tell.

Examinator,

see http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=8229#128741

Thanks RobP,

much appreciated

Julia Gillard for PM?

My goodness that's jumping the gun
a bit isn't it?

Let the current PM serve out his full term
(before criticizing him). Although, it usually
takes two terms to achieve anything substantial.

I see Julia Gillard as a very capable MP.
She must be doing something right. She's
held the seat of Lalor since 1998.

But I can't see her as PM.

At least not yet.

I'm stirring the pot as usual.A couple of red wines helped.Really Kevin is just a bureaucrat in a Prime Minister facade.There is no conviction or substance to the man.

Julia Gillard has really surprised me.She not only is hard working but her personality and humour is starting to shine.She is showing good judgement and is remaining cool under pressure.Malcolm Turnbull looked like and chastised school boy in Parliament the other day.

Julia's got more balls than Kevin could muster in his most titillating forerays into his illusion of being a political statesman of world renoun.It will take a lot more than fluent Mandarin to impress the likes of Hu Jing Tao.You only have to study the body language of Kevin,the synchronised digital language with hand gestures so fluent,they are detached from any sense of purpose or passion.

This is not a man that has a new constructive vision for ordinary Aussies.This is a man who wants to be famous for being famous.Even Paris Hilton can do a better job in that domain.

After winning an election [unknown to us all ] at the worst possible time to be in government.
Australia in the polls says clearly they are still happy with the result.
Yet we see posts like the first three?
Notice anything about them?
Unfounded and unbalanced they could have come out of the tactical plan of our opposition or its hit squad.
Opposition for the sake of it near deliberate lies in the vain hope some mud will stick.
Opposing even actions this opposition if in government would without doubt do its self.
While it may be a plan rather than doing nothing it is wrong, for the coalition and the country.
Policy's only policy's, can return voters to conservative ranks.
Every battle starts with one step, Turnbull must start his march by stopping this rubbish.
He is the right man for his job, but he has not yet begun to show it, he is in real danger of showing he can not do his job.
His deputy now has her partys knives in her back, has she earned them by using the most negative and near lies as her only weapons?
I think so, others too.
If my ALP serves a third term it will partly be because the born to rule conservatives are taking too long to learn from their defeat.

Arjay,
Call me simple but the majority of Australians want a PM to be a good administrator and not 'frighten the horses' with precipitous actions.
Otherwise the most successful electioneering ads wouldn't focus on 'hands you can trust' 'can we afford the others' et al.

It is a logical fact that the more people party to a compromise the more centralist and slower the result is...offends no one.

Consequently Rudd will hasten slowly on changes slowly and rightly so.
Julia is playing a role time will tell with both. Their balancing act is to take the people with them walking frames and all. Like trying to punch trough a highly viscus solution.

All this hype that Rudd's mandate is (support) for wholesale radical change is wishful thinking by ideologically biased individuals. O positions don't win elections Governments lose them.
Howard developed hubris confusing his ideological ‘legacy’ with what his job really was.
Consequently Rudd will hasten slowly on changes slowly and rightly so.
Julia is playing a role time will tell for both.

Julia's not a Christian, so she can't be PM. Unless Aussie's want unfettered abortion and gay adoption.

TRUTHNOW78

'Unfettered' abortions - last time I checked a qualified medic was required to perform an abortion.

I don't think that Julia is for miserable adoptions, shouldn't ALL adoptions be a joyful or gay event?

truthnow 78
If you want the truth now it helps if your statement is true and logical. Which they patently aren't.
Given Her non Christian status (something that has noting to do with what follows) does not equate with your assumption "so......." or your final concussion "unless.....".

Truthnow 74 is it? sorry if the numbers do not match.
Have you thought about your sign in name?
Truly it seems unwise to claim truth in such a post.
Again and again extremist Christians impose views in threads like this that highlight just why Church's are empty.
Once , maybe now too the extreme left had a much bigger input on the net.
After all like all extremes it is the only place they can have an impact.
Growing evidence can be found the Christians too must search for an audience.

Not while Rudd is still in the chair. In the future why not?
She is Deputy P.M.WE HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY WITH LBJ WHEN KENNEDY WAS SHOT!

She's very hardworking, but I don't think she has the chutzpah.

However, I would support her for allowing unfettered abortions for gay men, and furthermore for aborting gay affirmative action for dropkick women. All that I support. It's just the chutzpah thing.

like that post, Julia is doing very well, she always has.
She will not now or ever lead the party, she came from the left and seems to have changed sides.
The ALP even if it did so in NSW is unlikely to elect a left leader.
Rudd is doing just as well and he has the job for a very long time.
He has much more talent that some would wish to admit and once again I highlight Bill Shorten is there still.
Hockey, any one see the resemblance to a school yard bully? day of yesterday saw him smirking and behaving badly in the house, no way to win Friends.

Arjay,
Well said. I agree its important for a PM to travel but Rudd tripping around throwing our hard earned taxes away is beyond the PALE.

Can someone tell me why we would want to lend our neighbours over 3 BILLION dollars- With No account of WHERE its to be spent required.
Rudds not the first PM to give out our money with no enquiry Mind you .
Nobody asked US where to spend OUR funds~

At a time like this we would have been far better had Rudd loaned it to our states for roads schools etc.

They say this money from Rudd was very welcome after their recent rejection from a Russian Bank to loan them the same amount for fire arms.

Blimey- what else did you promise KEV?

ABC-Radio-National-Counterpoint's Michael Duffy & Paul Comry-Thomson interview political-journalists; Samantha Maiden & Michael Brissenden:

Political-Performance-2008

"Michael Brissenden: ... has to be Julia. ... Julia Gillard has been outstanding throughout the year and... every time she's given the opportunity to step up to the plate she does it with such relish. She absolutely murders it, she loves it, she's all over it. ... one of the difficulties for her is ... that the economic story has been so big and she's been out of that story. Even-so, she has made such an impact whenever she's had an opportunity to either inject herself into that story or make her own portfolio relevant, and she's done it with forensic-lust.

...

Michael Duffy: ... we have a distinct winner ... obviously Julia Gillard for Best Parliamentary Performer. For the Best-Shadow-Minister we're a bit all over the place. ... would each of you like to nominate a Best Minister? Starting with you, Sam.

Samantha Maiden: ... Lindsay Tanner is really interesting and I think he's taken with great gusto and passion to the role of being the razor-gang-man, so I'd probably got for Lindsay Tanner.

Michael Duffy: I'm glad you mentioned him. I can remember when they were in opposition he seemed to be a real up-and-comer and then he just seemed to go a bit quiet for a while but he's certainly come back with a vengeance now. Michael?

Michael Brissenden: I'd have to agree, ... Lindsay Tanner is by far and away the...apart from Julia Gillard, ... he is really across the brief, and you don't get the feeling when he stands up at the despatch box that he's going to let anything loose go, that he's going to in any way not be across what he's talking about. He responds from interjections from the other side with vigour and confidence... compared to Wayne Swan, who ... has improved a lot....But you still do get the impression when he stands up at the despatch box that he's sometimes not fully engaged, whereas you never get that impression with Lindsay Tanner."

Counterpoint - amazing.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/stories/2008/2440424.htm