Shadow Minister,


Our organisations job and the soul reason we entered this thread is the highlight animal welfare.


The real fact remains that scientists and the profession itself are heavily involved in tests on animals.

I would suggest any personal contacts you have may have could possibly be be through voluntary experiment labs perhaps.

There are many clinics working with the mentally impaired and aggression disorders.

There is I am informed a much higher attendance of men than women there as well.

Perhaps you have strayed from one of these.

If this is the case good luck with your treatment because you sound like you need some help.

I would however encourage you to enquire if the medication is first tested on animals.

*It's a question of appropriate behaviour,
fairness, and being judged as an individual
regardless of gender. *

Foxy, people with true talent will make it,
regardless of gender. Note the comments made
by the new female managing director of McDonalds,
that gender has never been a problem for her.

What I refuse to accept is this new apparent
PC correctness, where women seemingly feel free
to sling mud at men, but when men point out some
realities of life, some women get huffy and puffy
and feel upset. Reality does not go away, when
you close your eyes and wish it would.

*I thought that sexist remarks about women
was a thing of the past.*

Biological realities are not sexism, they are
simply facts as we know them.

*Usually made by older men - who believed that
the female sex is inferior to the male,
and that therefore unequal treatment is
justified*

Who claimed that females are inferior? The claim
is that females are equal but different, based on
our biological differences. Again not all females,
but on average.

The fact that women can in fact sleep their way to
the top, more then anything shows a weakness in
men, because reality prevails, men sometimes let
sex affect their better judgement. Fair enough,
I accept that.

Lets face it, many a woman has landed up owning
half the company, because she initially slept
with the boss. Marriage these days can be a very
lucrative business for a calculating female.

Just for the record:

Animal experimentation is necessary to advance our understanding of biology. All the ingenuous arguments of "animal rights" activists will not alter that fact. I've heard them all and they are male bovine excrement.

As it happens I do know women who experiment on animals. In fact, so far as I can see, women in the life sciences are as likely to experiment on animals as men.

PALEIF

Your inability to spell or write and your complete incomprehension of what a scientist is or does would indicate that your mental age is about 7.

Go play with people your own age I will leave before I am accused of child abuse.

I don't like seeing animals mistreated but PALEIF is reactionary and hateful in many ways. I don't know where this type of bigotry comes from but she(?) has said in a prior discussion on the pointless and expensive drug war, that the death penalty should be applied in Australia to Australians who sell drugs to each other...that they should be executed.

*As it happens I do know women who experiment on animals. In fact, so far as I can see, women in the life sciences are as likely to experiment on animals as men.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Thursday, 27 November 2008 2:33:15 PM*
Oh I am sure you do. I am also sure you support the cruel labs conducting brutal tests on the innocent animals.
I just hate people who think like you. You THINK your on some higher moral grounds- when in fact they have no morals at all.

The last three posters should hang their heads in Shame. You might make a few typo errors if working 14 16 hour days 7 day a week .
Despite your claims that you dont like seeing animals mistreated we have not seen you making any effort to stop it.

Stevenlmeyer You opended this thread claiming 'Where are the woman Scientists.'

We made an informed post given we have attended meetings at the request of students and others involved within this area.

Now suddenly you have found all those women Scientists you claim didnt could not be found and of course they are all involved in the cruel test on animals.

One does not have to look too far to see this thread is just an attack on women in general.
That doesnt really bother me and as I said we came into this thread to highlight the plight of animal suffering in the name of so called SCIENCE.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~rabbit/aniexp.htm

Be they male or female involved they are low people. As for drug pushers who kill thousands of our kids I prefer to give them to the Scientists TBO

I make no bones about supporting a death sentence if the crime warrants it.

Like the Bali Bombers and of course it goes without saying those involved in killing our children with their drugs.

I would also like to see all Live Animal Exports added to that list.