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The 20 brightest scientists in America - where are the women?
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Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 22 November 2008 8:40:34 AM
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Sheeeh, I guess alot of women were home minding the kids, cooking,
cleaning and doing laundry. Somebody has to do it :) Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 22 November 2008 2:42:15 PM
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I forgot to post a link to the Discover Magazine article. Here it is:
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/dec/20-best-brains-under-40 Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 22 November 2008 2:58:50 PM
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I subscribe to the "leaky pipeline" theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_science#Statistics I have known many women who had the brains to perform just as well as any man as a scientist. However, it's not very easy for women to develop a research group if you are even married, let alone have kids. The professional women I have had the fortune to know tend to marry men of the same educational level, with many marrying within the same career. It's unfortunate, but they also tend to subordinate their careers in favour of their husbands career. It has nothing to do with their brains. Posted by Bugsy, Saturday, 22 November 2008 3:49:06 PM
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Dear Steven,
Interesting thread. Historically women were excluded from the "boy's club" of science, but women scientists date as far back as ancient Greece. According to a report on the statistics in the academic profession (American Assoc. of university professors webpage), 4 times more men held faculty positions. Women faced tremenduous adversity. There was prejudice in hiring and promotion. Exclusion from networking opportunities. Family/career balance - women, especially ones of child bearing age, were still seen to be a risk in hiring. Forty years ago women made up only 3% of America's scientific and technical work force, but by 2003 they accounted for nearly one fifth. In addition women have earned more than half of the bachelor's degrees awarded in science and engineering since 2000. So it is surprising that so many women are still being devalued in their research work, and not gaining recognition in their chosen fields. It is surprising that today the fear still exists that given equal rights and freedoms women may overshadow their male counterparts. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 November 2008 4:31:29 PM
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FOXY,
You seem to be assuming that women do suffer discrimination in the sciences. I for one doubt women suffer discrimination in technical fields. I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise if you have can produce HARD evidence. To me the "leaky pipeline theory" (thank you BUGSY) seems more credible. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 22 November 2008 5:19:59 PM
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http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/01/17/summers_remarks_on_women_draw_fire/
The upshot. Summers was forced to resign.
The latest issue of Discover, a respected popular science magazine, contains an article titled "20 Best Brains Under 40." Two qualifications are in order.
--They mean the best scientific brains; and
--The article is confined to scientists working in the US.
With that out of the way, I counted just 4 women among the top 20 "best brains" in science. A simple binomial test shows that the probability of this happening by chance is less than 1 %.
Note that these are scientist born in are after 1969. I doubt they would have experienced much, if any, gender discrimination against top scientific talent.
OK, folks any theories?
What, if anything other than chance, caused the relative dearth of women among Discover Magazine's "20 Best Brains Under 40?"