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Creationists need not reply [EVOLUTIONISTS ONLY PLEASE]

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Fractelle,quote>>..teams have attempted to solve some long-standing puzzles in the evolution and social history of dogs<<

yes wolves canis[ie wild dogs]into dogs[canis]

this is in genetics called ancestoral wildtype][the pigions i studied has the blue bar rock dove[columbia]as its [+]wildtype[ancestor]yet all pigeons are[+]rock doves[and all dogs are[+]wolves]canis

its ALL in the canine or columbia genus,

Evolution postulates woles[canis]EVOLVED from something ELSE[something not wolf[canis]'evolving into a NEW species;not canus

NOT-canis into canis is what evolution postulates[IF canus EVOLVED from something ELSE,this something else can't be from the cannus genus,

see your being fed the same spin,mutations found WITHIN canis[the genus>species[C=c1,c2, c3 ARE all withing the'C'genus of canis]
#
not'b'evolving into'c'[just because we can lift one hundred pounds dont mean we can lift a thousand]

this is what evolution is decieving us about]

yes there is vairiation WITHIN a genus,but evolution postulates cannus CAME FROM NON canus
[that hasnt been proved[and cant be proved]
[what would be new is saying WHICH non wolf evolved the FIRST wolf, you offer no proofs]only a news opinion peace

what NON canis'EVOLVED'canus[wolf] ?
or what evolution from canus[dog]ISNT cannus[dog]

that NOT cannus link is what is needed to prove evolution![VIA the NATURAL selection DARWIN said reversion into wild type[a fact]take out HUMAN selection,THEN natural selection turns the breeds of dog BACK into its wolf ancestor[canis][+}[not cat;not a non canus]as witnessed wild cats returning to their'natural selection>[+]wild ancestoral type[genus]by being bigger than domesticaled[man selected] cats[genus feliness or whatever]

BUT if evolution,what cat[+F}became canus[+c]
or what boney fish became canus[fish breed fish[dogs breed dogs]its a logical natural LAW

WHAT NOT cannus;non wolf was UN-naturally selected[by humans]into cannus dog,MAN did not create a cannus genus,the NOT natural selection of canus created the dog[we are enjoined with our CREATOR]

[what did the wolf canis decend[evolve]from?[what non canus is its non mutant paternals?[that is what evolution is saying[despite only proof that like breeeds like,dogs breed dogs[cats dont]

understand the big picture of common ancestorial decent postulated as an evolutionary faulsifyable
points only to the natutral selector [god [not dog]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 11:34:01 AM
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Dear One Under God,

Dogs, cat and humans all descend from a common ancestor.

We and other primates are decend from a smallish creature said to like a tree shrew.

Biologists have experimentally accelerated evolution by giving viruses to virsus. I think I might have mentioned this before? About wenty years back Scientific American produced a special publication (might have been outside its normal issue series) on how the human body could could be improved. If I recall, re-engineering our spine was one suggestion, correcting a compromise of being a biped, whose ancestors walked on all fours
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 12:20:50 PM
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Jeezuz, there’s a whole swathe of typos in my posts this morning, despite my 'religious' spell and grammar checks and multiple proof-reads. Faaaargh!!

My first paragraph should have read;

“You’ve got to admit OUG that the contrast here is absolutely extreme. That is, between you drawing conclusions based on no hard evidence whatsoever and entirely on what you’ve read in a couple of my posts….and your insistence on proof of evolution and autogenesis before you could possibly conclude that they are real!
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 1:02:30 PM
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oliver http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional/part1a.html#tran scroll down to SUMMERY
note the gaps in ya theory?then http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional/part1b.html then http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional/part2a.html

ludwig>>The geographic distribution..Miena-Cider-Gum;1600km2[area/occupancy40/50ha;known from five locations,three;contain approximately;50 mature,another approximately;500[and the largest approximately 1000 mature individuals]<<

RESONING[if it'evolved'[it would remain fairly much'in_situ'[for-rest's do'move'over time]BUT would[yet]reflect its'evolution'[if any]by its location[in situ'][By where its'species'are found[so it is very likely each[breed genus or whatever[type]should have a defined/limited,specific area{BUT}im getting run/arround seeking the_info[every-link seems to lead to csiro publishing or other book seller]/selective quotes but little real info,

BUT the info conflicts[see that if a tree evolves it evolves as one'evolution']but see below what is happening[in REAL-time]quote<<'..As the population has fragmented/the distance between mature trees within the sub-populations has increased,due to the death of many mature trees,rate of self-fertilisation is expected to increase and inbreeding effects are'likely'to be manifest in the population'>>....so here we have the inconveniant truths[IF this many eucalypts are having trouble surviving]NOW

HOW did one single mutant[evo-polution/mutant]survive?THEN[lol]

many perfectly healthy[acclimatised]addapted[evolved]trees have current viability somewhat reduced via a'natural selection'process LOL[human greed/need]#[read link]

QUOTE;'Inbreeding is expected to result in reduced seed set,and reduced survival and vigour of seedlings>>,HOW DID THE FIRST EVOLUTION EVER SURVIVE AS ONE[single]MUTANT?[one evolution]fighting for survival against its own parentals[and its non evolved fellow offspring[cant you see the insanity?

here we have many trees[living since evolving from the sea,as all life reportedly emerged/evolved from a single LIVING cell floating in a sea of non creationism natural selectivity;not to one new mutant but its[1000'S] of'evolved'children[if many cant do it[NOW}#how did one[do it then][lol],

but read again what is happening[NOW]

<<Seedlings of the Cider Gum(E.-gunnii)resulting from self-fertilisation have been observed to show inbreeding depression in the form of reduced vigour and survival>>[lol]how ever could that first/mutant have'survived[ONLY by gods_will!]

what E/gunnii EVOLVE from?what its parental'ancestor'type;natural/'selection'[or the last'evolution']?how did they ever survive before we came to'resque'them?[by gods_will alone;mans seems intent on destroying them all,because were thinking'they'can'evolve'themselves[lol]

[well'they'cant[thus'they'die]

thats why adam was tasked to tend_the-earth,we are our br-others protector's,not exploiters]by helping'them'realise how GREAT'they'can be]

http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/threatened/species/e-g-divaricata.html
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 4:38:20 PM
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UOG
Error detected In [your] DNA sequencing of evil-lution.
abort( )…

Line: what E/gunnii EVOLVE from?what its parental'ancestor'type;natural/'selection'[or the last'evolution']?how did they ever survive before we came to'resque'them?[by gods_will alone;mans seems intent on destroying them all,because were thinking'they'can'evolve'themselves[lol]

Error, error, error

E.-gunnii did not spring fully formed from the head of Zeus .

E.-gunnii likely sub –population isolated –becoming more diverse over many centuries.

Think languages : not Tower of Babel ala all languages suddenly appearing fully formed from an insecure god. Think rather Italian, Spanish , French slowly evolving from Latin.

OMG! OMG! OMG!
Reprogram
Begin sequencing again.
Int main ( )
{ char*s+All is flux, nothing is stationary.”;
Posted by Horus, Thursday, 11 December 2008 2:55:35 AM
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lord horus
press alt/restore

and a eucalyptus EXPERT will explain the origin of e-gunni
or at least explain what evolution it mutated from

or the one his peers conquer is'likely'to have been birthed be some random chance

science[sci-trance]is based on peer/revieuw[peers hate being ridiculed by their own peers]thus silence is better than being cast out of the sci-trance peer-age

the sci-trance of'evolution is full of gaps'but hush we dont want the kids to know this[our lawyers are on it,then we make a movie presenting the court case as validating our sci-trance,

when the court case really is only about schools daring to teach that the sci trance evolving theory IS WEARING a theory full of HOLES

age old promises that all will be proved[the gaps filled;so to speak],by decievers in their holy white coated garb,that mere believers in evil volutions creationisms by natural?selectivity or faith]call believable specificity[but stangly just cobbled together randon assorted faCT]

THEY WILL TRY to push the deception of evil-volution further with name calling and picking the questioner to bits,because they cant proove their theory is science

the white coated ones confused them as children[believing they can sell them its science,that belief in the sea murk they can sell them its scientific,

i present here a side note scratched in an ancient email[from the darwinian fossils peers addressed to lord santos[doing wonders sterilising their seed stock]

[as well as any who eat the poisend{SEED}feed or the stock,via the self same blind faith in sci-trance[that has gaps in its theory,no one is allowed to point out]

[loose quote]''we can give them the faulse santa clause,and we can sell them on slime monsters crawling from the primal oooze long enough to blind side them with childish links and theory long enough to destroy all life forms,[and their abilty to pro-create]life only god could create''

take heart normaility may never return
just look at the sci trance not the gaps[what gaps]?

the better con
is where to admit the con they would need to feel even more[moore]foolish than NOT to admit they we even conned in the first place
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 December 2008 7:58:07 AM
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