Fractelle,
I can’t wait for the rest of the article!

Foxy,
Well put, I agree with you. It’s all about faith, and faith means belief without evidence.

Gibo,
I did answer your question in my first post when I said that scientists are not into disproving things that are not observable.
BTW, there isn't an 'imagined' truth of evolution.

There is so much support for the evolution theory, and no support for the literal interpretation of Genesis, that we can safely say that the Genesis account isn’t the truth.
However, there is no “irrefutable” evidence that the Genesis account isn’t the truth because everything in science remains open to be refuted. That’s the nature of science and that’s my point.

So, to recap:
If the evolution theory true, as it appears to be, then it would prove that it is wrong to literally interpret the Genesis account of the Bible.
There is very strong support for the evolution theory from many different fields; it would be extremely difficult to disprove it.
There is no support and zero evidence outside the Bible to back up the Genesis account of the Bible.

The evolution theory, however, does no damage to the idea that religious texts like the Bible weren't meant to be taken literally. Rather, they were meant as a moral guide. Read Joseph Campbell's The Power of Myth.

That's why many, non-fundamental Christians don't have a problem with the evolution theory.

Almost everything in Genesis is too absurd to take literally.
I could give some examples when you want, but perhaps I should also take a break from this thread.

Conclusion to Mussell Myth

"To keep them closed, the mussel has muscles. It uses its specific adductor muscles. When we cook them, the heat can have a few effects on the adductor muscles that keep the two halves of their shells stuck together.

Sometimes, the heat can denature the proteins in the adductor muscles so that they simply disintegrate, or sometimes, it can make one or both ends of the adductor muscles come unstuck from the shell.

......

If you removed them from the stove once they opened and ate these mussels, you would be at risk of food poisoning.

But you would get a strong hint from the texture of the meat — it would be unappetizing, jelly-like, un-coagulated, and stuck to the perimeter of the shell.

At the other extreme, he found that some 11.5 per cent of mussels remained closed after a so-called "normal" cooking time.

When he forced them open with a knife, every single one was both adequately cooked and safe to eat.

So, according to Nick Ruello, even if the adductor muscles refuse to bow to the heat, the meat is still safe to eat.

But on the occasions when he cooked them for a further 90 seconds, about one-seventh of them still remained shut.

And in the mussels that finally did open, thanks to the overcooking, the meat was now shrunken and tough.

The best way to check the safety of mussels is to check them before you cook them.

Mussels have such a small mass that if they are invaded by a pathogen or germ, they will be overwhelmed almost immediately, and will smell bad.

If we use the experimental evidence, and stop throwing out cooked mussels that stubbornly refuse to open, we can stop wasting each year some 370 tonnes of perfectly good seafood worth around $3 million.

So use a little brain muscle, and put the mussel where your mouth is."

Just as reason and observation revealed the myth about mussells, so too has Evolution busted the myth of Genesis.

Bugsy: << And yet you're still allowed to vote. Amazing. >>

Quite so. I've mostly stayed out of this silly thread out of humanitarian tolerance for people with disabilities. However, Gibo's latest idiotic, quite belligerent utterances are offensive enough for me to respond.

Gibo, most people don't share your preposterous beliefs. We do so because we have rational minds that operate according to principles of logic that you apparently are incapable of understanding. We generally tolerate delusional idiots until they become belligerent and/or offensive, at which point some of us leave, and others throw eggs.

I think we're getting to that point. You've stated you won't accept any rational evidence, and you still demand that we prove a negative proposition.

You are - by definiton - an idiot. This is evidenced by the fact that you reject genuine responses to your asinine demands by reversion to simple repetition of ultra-fundamentalist dogma.

Fractelle - I love mussels, and exposed that myth by personal experimental means some decades ago. Mind you, it took some time to persuade my partner that reluctant mussels are fine to eat...

I think that myths are wonderful - as long as those who subscribe to them do so in 'mythical' ways (as do those who take biblical creation myths as allegorical, pre-scientific modes of understanding). However, when fanatics who delusionally mistake such myths for reality become strident, dogmatic or belligerent, I think it's appropriate to remind them of their intellectual status.

In my opinion, Gibo's ideas here are little more than the ravings of a moderately aggressive religious nutter. As with the few others of his ilk that he has attracted, he is impervious to reason. Full marks to OLO for giving him a forum, however.

At the very least, the thread's been quite entertaining - almost as much so as the "9/11 Truth" one.

Come on people ...get back on track. Quite a lot of you are using other peoples quotes or theories on how earth came to be.

Try and stay with the titles question... and not with what you think regarding other people and what they reckon.

Is there any irrefutable evidence that the Bibles Genesus account is not true?
There is none.
Theres only some vacant thought connected to this site or that, or this report or that, or some book here or there... about it might have been.

What evolutionists claim is their "discovered truth" was there long before they were born as being the results of Gods Creation, the fall of man, the Judgment of the Great Flood...

The blind leading the blind.

No wonder committed christians see evolution as just another cult.

Its all "made up stuff" from people who werent there at the Beginning.

Gibo! Your starting to scare me. Is it that your a little lonely? I can see you snapping, and firing bullets into your P\C. Mate! I done a few calculations on the ark thing and found Noah would of needed 84 oil size tankers to do the job. That's every square inch of space in liquid biomass. All thou not accurate, do you see my point.

Why intelligent people are paying attention to this, other than for amusement, is beyond me.

Gibo! have you ever thought about stamp collecting.
You can ones with little Jesus,s on it and paste them in to a book of our choice.

I could only imagine what the in-side of your house looks like. More collect-ables than the eyes can see I bet.

Whether god is there or not, its going to make no difference to out come of the world.

Q. Any evidence that the bible account is the truth?

A. Not a hope in hell.

But it does make an "A" for creative thinking.

EV

could I ask for an opimion from people on this thread .At the Townsville Marine muesium there is a fossle of a Saw fish over 60 ft long found in sandstone in western queensland . Hundred's of miles from the present coastline . In front of it they have an adult specimin taken in cleeveland bay and fully grown it is only 12 ft long .In a cave at munganna chiligo north queensland I found coral and a star fish fossel . Where is all the water and am I very ignorant in thinking it may have been evedence of a flooded land scape , Has volcanic activity pushed the earth's crust upwards .
What do you think