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Any evidence that the Bible Genesis account isnt the truth?

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Dear yabby where did you get the knowledge that God created sickness and starvation . What is your authoritive source . Is it reliable
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 1 November 2008 10:35:14 PM
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Dear richie,

If according to you and others, god created the heavens and the
earth and is all powerfull and able to do these things, then clearly
he is also responsible for sickness and diseases.

Clearly he had a choice and he decided to include much misery.
Unless you are saying that he did not actually have the power to
create the heavens and the earth and everything upon it.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 1 November 2008 10:43:37 PM
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Richie,
"God condenms nobody "
Nah, he just drowns them all in a flood when he feels like it.

With respect, Gibo, I gave this thread a fair go but, apart from having a bit of fun, I can't see a point debating this topic seriously when your reason for opposing arguments is because you don't want to use your brain.

When someone deliberately decides to blindly believe a book, no matter what arguments the opposition comes up with, what is left to debate?

Don't you ever wonder why God has given you a brain and intelligence if He doesn't want you to use it to investigate, research, and draw your own conclusions?

I hope I don't sound mean, I don't intend to, but I just don't understand why someone with otherwise normal intelligence should feel they can't use their brain or that they'd be a sinful or a bad person if they do.

About Hell screams.
Interesting article about that here:
http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp
Posted by Celivia, Saturday, 1 November 2008 11:01:21 PM
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Celivia

Snopes is an excellent resource for the debunking of myths.

Myths take hold very easily, the following is one I believed until recently and tested for myself. Of course, if you don't like seafood you won't care, but for the lover of the crustacean, this is welcome news indeed.

"Mussel myth an open and shut case"

The habits of people choosing mealtime molluscs stick as tightly as a barnacle. Dr Karl applies some muscle power of his own to wrench open the facts.

By Karl S. Kruszelnicki

People love their seafood. We humans have been eating mussels for thousands of years.

Now, I once believed two things about mussels. First, that you should eat them only in months that had the letter 'R' in them. And that second, you should throw away the ones that don't open when you cook them.

How easy it is to be wrong!

The first mussel myth is simple to debunk. The advice to eat mussels only in months with the letter 'R' applies only to the northern hemisphere, when the months of September through to April are when mussels are supposedly "in".

That will teach me to get my gastronomic advice from European books.
The second myth is more complicated to correct.

Look at the influential cookery books of the 1960s, such as Larousse Gastronomique in 1965 and Italian Food by Elizabeth David in 1966.

These books made absolutely no mention of discarding unopened mussels.
The myth seems to have been started by the English food writer, Jane Grigson in her 1973 publication, Fish Book.

The exact quote is:
Throw away any mussels that refuse to open.

According to Nick Ruello, the mussel expert and fisheries biologist, this advice stuck as tightly as a barnacle.

By the 1970s, some 13 per cent of cookery books were agreeing with Jane Grigson; and by the 1980s, this had risen to 31 per cent.

By the 1990s, there was almost universal agreement among the cookbook writers — none of whom were fisheries biologists.

Cont'd
Posted by Fractelle, Sunday, 2 November 2008 7:47:33 AM
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Cont’d

Indeed, Nick Ruello personally contacted two prominent Australian cookbook writers and asked them why they wrote this. Their replies were that the information:

came from their young research assistants who did much of the work in preparing the latest book.

It was as though once the advice had been written down, it kept on spreading because other writers quoted it, without checking if it was correct or not.

And it was not.

Nick Ruello got involved in this mussel myth because he was commissioned to write a report for Seafood Services Australia, on the rather specific topic of adding value to mussels.

And of course, along the way, he cooked and ate over 30 batches of mussels, of various sizes, ranging from 21 to 111 mussels.

Now the mussel has a shell with two halves. Thanks to some elastic ligaments, these two halves have a natural tendency to be open.

Cont'd
Posted by Fractelle, Sunday, 2 November 2008 7:49:07 AM
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Celivia.

Was that all you got out of it all?...a reaction to a small statement regarding faith instead of humanist-nit picking on the overall subject of Creation?

Despite Foxys allegation that she has answered the question...the question remains unanswered.

Like One Under God has said there has been no rebuttal.

Just about all of the pro-evolution/Charlie Darwin leaners here appear to have simply said in their hearts, regarding the subject title, "Well I think its was this kind of a way on earth...and other people have said to me, or have written somewhere, that it was that kind of a way on earth...so I will go that kind of a way and add my two cents on how I reckon it was on earth".

The myth and the theory and the "I reckon" is not with the christians who have the Spirit of God to Confirm the Bible accounts.

Q. "Is there any irrefutable evidence that the Holy Bible Genesis account isnt the truth"?

Is anyone here really suited to answer the question?
Posted by Gibo, Sunday, 2 November 2008 8:28:54 AM
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