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INPEX has now announced its plan to build an LNG plant at East Arm in Darwin. Do we want a Japanese Company ( in association with the French. Sacre bleue!)in Darwin. The Japanese have short memories, many Australians do not. I have suggested that they might like to excavate the bodies of civilians buried on the beaches after the bombing of Darwin. I do not expect a reply. But then they cannot expect us to forget. The LNG site is about as destructive as it can get. We can only hope for a cyclone to get rid of these vandals before they destroy what they could not steal.
Posted by orlando55, Saturday, 27 September 2008 1:02:29 AM
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WW2 is a long time back yet there is a spiritual wisdom in not encouraging the asian nations to get a foothold in this country.

As time moves on, things Australian would tend to get lost and the day finally comes when what have we got?

We wake up one morning and there are mosques and pagan temples everywhere... the government is full of Islamics and asians and they are legislating for more to come and live here.

No, Im with you Orlando55 in this issue of new asian enterprise.

We dont need to sell out our Australian christian democracy to nations that have connections with the "fallen spirit" realm.
The crux for me is that in our asia/south pacific region its the asian nations who are doing most of the raping of the environment.
China, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Japan are mostly amoral races.

Mostly they cant tell right from wrong and will plunder Gods earth for the mighty dollar/yen.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 27 September 2008 3:34:49 PM
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Yeah prejudism is a GREAT reason not to have a plant.

Bet you own dozens of products made in Germany and Japan. How about the enemies of your ancestors?. Surely they deserve the respect of you not buying English, or French, or Spanish, or Italian, or Nordic...

What makes people like that come to this site. The place is overflowing with people who are nuttier than peanut butter.

*shakes head*
Posted by StG, Saturday, 27 September 2008 5:35:22 PM
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We can be politically correct StG and say that the asian nations are nice people and do wonderful things...or we can be correct in what we say about them... and tell the truth.

The Japanese are the more sensible and educated of the asian races, the Chinese and Indonesians the least.

All have inclinations towards destroying the earth. As a God blessed nation Australia has to stand apart as much as possible from them.
In both China and Indonesia they have pogroms against the born again christians.
Wherever the Holy Bible has failed to settle in a culture... we have a disrespect for human, animal and forest life.

Because the Holy Bible hasnt settled in their cultures the asians, including the Islamics, live in poverty, always fighting amongst themselves, at the beck and call of demon powers, and always destroying life to convert it to money... e.g. the Japanese and the whales and dolphins.
We surely ought to build our armies here in Australia...for surely one day they will come and they will come looking for whats left that they havent devoured to convert it to their appetites.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 27 September 2008 6:46:05 PM
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Gibo: << We wake up one morning and there are mosques and pagan temples everywhere... the government is full of Islamics and asians and they are legislating for more to come and live here.

[...]

China, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Japan are mostly amoral races. >>

This is about the point where my tolerance for the village idiot begins to be strained.

What hateful, racist rubbish. I think you need another holiday, Gibo.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 27 September 2008 8:54:29 PM
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orlando55,
Noticing that this is your first post, I just want you to know that I intend to totally ignore anything with your name on it.

Gibo. Seriously, you need help. You are the best example ever for arguement why not to be religous. Again it is best to ignore you
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 27 September 2008 10:13:49 PM
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In addition to the humpback whales and their use of the Kimberley region as a feeding, resting and calving site selection, prior to migrating to Antarctica, the entire coast from Broome around to Wyndham is part of an extensive fringing reef system, and is fed into by magnificent wild rivers.

The mining for gas off the Kimberleys by Woodside assisted by the Japanese company, Inpex's proposition to locate a gas processing facility in Darwin, will pose some serious environmental problems.

The majestic Kimberley is one of the world’s last great wilderness regions. This pristine area rich in culture, heritage and biodiversity is Australia’s last untouched frontier.

The Northern Territory has the beautiful Kakadu National Park, already ecologically compromised by the mining of uranium.

Overall, the state of WA is in a bad way - particularly its waterways. Last week, alarm bells rang over the serious depletion of lobster stocks with few babies to be seen. Recent concerns by government officials were expressed over the drastic depletion of other fish species - from the South to as far north as Exmouth.

The major rivers (Swan and Canning) in the metropolitan areas of Perth are constantly placed on life support and must be injected with oxygen.

Mass seabird deaths continue - shearwaters, cormorants, seagulls.

The South West of WA is now recognised as one of the planet's most threatened ecological hotspots.

The Woodside and Inpex project will be an economic fillip for WA and the NT but in which decade shall we discover that money can't be eaten?
Posted by dickie, Saturday, 27 September 2008 11:25:29 PM
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Japan needs to take responsibility for its past. It has not. The Japanese are about the most racist nation on the face of the earth. Try reading about the Nanking massacre for which they have not taken responsibility. Yes I do have items made in Asian countries but that is because Australia's manufacturing industry base has been destroyed by foreign competition Their prices are lower and their profit margin higher because they subject their own people to appalling working conditions. As a former officer I the ABS I watched the rapid decline of our value adding and technologically advanced industries.
I am not a racist. I have lived and worked in Asia, most particularly Malaysia. There I witnessed the "bumiputrisation" of that nation and the terrible racism directed against the Indian and ethnic Chinese population. We attempted to resist this trend by encouraging technically skilled Indian women to advance in the oil and gas company Petronas carigali., without success. if you wany to find prejudice look elsewhere. I at least know what is involved in constucting an LNG train and I know the envirinmental sensitivity of the region proposed for "deveolopment". I hoe you will do the research and then apologise for your remarks.
Posted by orlando55, Sunday, 28 September 2008 4:54:31 PM
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Actually Im not racist but I do know what has been going on.
Bit by bit we, the world, is losing out to Islam.
Here in Australia it creeps through the suburbs with its Australian part in the global plan...petitioning for more room for mosques and schools.
Soon they will be into parliament...for this is their gaol.

In Britain its bad. The Brits are losing all that God Raised them to be... street by street... and theres nothing they seem to be able to do about it.
They have to shut the doors to Islamic immigration to stop the forward movement of Islam and her extremists.

Ive been to the lectures and Ive heard the truth.

The asian races by nature through their worship, that of demons and false eastern religions, are amoral.

Life is dirt cheap in most asian nations.

We've seen this with the way China treats her own people (Tiananmen Square), Falum Gong (cutting their kidneys out), the born again christians (killing them and putting them in prison), the way the Chinese abuses the Tibetans, etc.
Japan lies her head off and slaughters the whales and the dolphins to squeeze them into cans for rotten money...and calls it research when we all know its totally, absolutely totally, unecessary.
The Malaysian timber cartels are raping the South Pacific of its forests. Soon the wonderful forests of the Pacific will be gone forever.
The Indonesian slaughter their own born again christians, rape them, cut their limbs off, murder them, and the police and government encourages it when the pogroms are moving forward...and you say the asians are not amoral?
I really find most modern young Australians weak and mostly useless to this nations defence against what is obviously evil.
What a shock most of you young people are going to face when the asian dragons get moving south later on.
Posted by Gibo, Sunday, 28 September 2008 6:17:19 PM
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Gibo: << Actually Im not racist but I do know what has been going on.

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The asian races by nature through their worship, that of demons and false eastern religions, are amoral. >>

Gibo, given that you write racist rubbish like that above, what makes you think you're not racist?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 28 September 2008 6:43:11 PM
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Remember Eddie Booth from Love Thy Neighbour? He wasn't racist either, he just didn't like people who were black.
Posted by Steel Mann, Monday, 29 September 2008 8:32:10 AM
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Gibo

<<The asian races by nature through their worship, that of demons and false eastern religions, are amoral.>>

Asian races?
By nature?
Worship?
Demons?
False eastern religions?
Amoral?

Apart from those few quibbles, I agree with every word in your sentence.

Actually Im not racist either Gibo. But you do meet a better class of equine at Flemington. This year I'l be whining and dhining in the Emirates horsepitality tent. I'll put in a word for you. It's a great place for picking up conspiracies (from the horses' mouth).
Posted by Spikey, Monday, 29 September 2008 9:49:10 AM
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Actually Gibo, I'm probably in agreement with you on your concerns about Muslims. I think you noticed a very long comment by a contributer with a very long name about Muslims on another thread. Despite its length, it was well worth reading. Christianity is generally a tolerant religion, (although there a plenty of intolerant Christians, you yourself are often accused of being that), and our tolerance is contributing to the sell out of Australia.

I object to chain food outlets like McDonalds & KFC having a Halal menu. The food might not be any different to us non Muslims, but it means that only Muslims can work in the preparation of this food. If Muslims want Halal food in these places, they should have subsidary companies with the word "Halal" in the title. In Israel with its significant population of Jews there are two McDonalds chains existing side by side, one is the regular McDonalds and the other is Kosher for the Jewish population.

We must however acknowledge that there are many devout Muslims, that genually practice their religion and can do so without interferring with the rest of the population that do not wish to follow the Islamic faith.
Posted by Steel Mann, Monday, 29 September 2008 9:54:34 AM
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One company that is exploiting a gas find in Western Australia was
dopey enough to sign a very long term contract for CNG of something
like 25 years. The market price of CNG gas has increased by many times
since. It was obvious to the Chinese buyers that there was an energy
crunch coming but not to the sellers even though many were aware.
The result is we will subsidise Chinese energy use while we will in the
future be needing gas for our own transportation needs.
It really is a government responsibility to step in and prevent such
contracts being signed. As the horse has boltered don't expect Kevin Rudd
to move to cancel such contracts, despite how desperate we become.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 29 September 2008 10:54:09 AM
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CJ
All thats known about the asians...is known to the Christians.

We know it because the Holy Bible is the standard and we know what it says about demon powers and false religions.
We know that the Holy Bible is truth because The Holy Spirit convicts us of this.
We all know, in our own Christian world, about all of the in-behind the scenes behaviour of asian folks.
There are many publications like the "Voice of the Martyrs" (and a zillion websites) that speak about what the asian governments/military/intelligence people do in places like China and Indonesia to born again Christians.
Im only speaking truth about the asian folks...truth passed down by Christian believers and missionaries to Christians here and in the West.
I love the ordinary folks of asia...but have to withdraw support for their behaviour when they move over to ungodliness.
Satans rules in asia because many allow him to...too many.
Posted by Gibo, Monday, 29 September 2008 12:55:36 PM
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Steel Mann
Im primarily concerned about the growing military might of asia.
I cant stop the asian folks from doing what they do in worship etc.
I can only pray about it.

Australia has to wake up regarding the threat.

We can all see whats happening in the world...nations are beginning to really, truly, aggro other nations.

I hate the Chinese spies (Chen Yonglin) being here because I dont think they are here to watch their own people.
They measure the land today for their secret plans... as has done Indonesia.
Posted by Gibo, Monday, 29 September 2008 1:05:44 PM
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Gibo, one or more asian nations may have designs on Australia.

However, your method of arguing this is completely flawed. You say that asians live in poverty because they are not christian. How then do you explain (a) Hong Kong, and (b) poor christian countries in Africa and South America.

You deride asians for chasing riches, but fail to explain how the same logic applies to very christian USA (although it does look like they are going to be reaping the rewards of this).

Pick some arguements that have less holes than a colander, and you might find someone prepared to listen to you.
Posted by Country Gal, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:01:55 AM
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Country Gal
Most of the common peoples of asia do live in poverty or not far above it.
Hong Kong is one of the blessed cities because of the British influence which brought The Word of God with it (oh, the Christian missionaries who have gone into that small part of China). All with Hong Kong... has been to do with mostly the Brits.

The poor Christian countries of Africa and Sth America?

Well... despite the Holy Bible influence in those countries and the fact that many are "saved", a lot of the common folks still practice witchcraft and are open to demons powers.
There will be, to some degree, of a mix of Christianity and witchcraft in many who know Jesus in third world nations.
If a door is open anywhere through witchcraft...then satan gets authority to enter that door with sickness and deprivation.
It can be a struggle for Christians in the third world countries.
It has to be taught to Christian believers that Jesus and satan are not to be mixed in a Christians' life.
Ive known Christians even here who mix Light and darkness...some who refuse to let go of masonic connections and suffer the curses that go with freemasonry...e.g. illness in families and addictions. Christians have to be taught not to mix the two...the Light and the darkness. No star charts or old wives tales or Harry Potter-for-their kids.
Perhaps chasing riches is a bit different from the rape thats going on with the loss of forests and the animals and the sea creatures. Theres seems to bemostly no restraint...no planning for a next generation with asia. Thats my opinion.
Posted by Gibo, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 12:07:12 PM
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I must say Gibo that we are blessed in this country by many wonderful Asian people. In fact many Asian doctors are Christians. I think you will find that the religion of secularism causes more harm than any other religion in this nation. Due to it we abort tens of thousands of babies, promote porn and immorality, champion homosexuality, worship the environment and deny our Creator. Yes all other gods are false and demonic but no more than secularism which disguises itself in false morality. Look at how the secularist preach on these forums and then have the nerve to demonize Christians and their beliefs. They defend Islam and hate the righteousness that only comes from Christ. Be careful not to be to critical of other countries as many of their people have not had the opportunity to receive the Light like we have. Most here have traded salvation for candy coated sin. Just look at the crap pumped out by SBS and you will get the drift.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 1:55:15 PM
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My focus Runner is mainly on warning of "asia" as an invader to the region.
I cant help this because my awareness of many visions and prophecies of an invader in the region later on.
I dont really have much problem with the asian folks apart from a desire for them to consider the environment a bit more.
Not every culture clearly pulls towards preservation of the forests and the seas.
China is building for war and I dont want us any closer to them.
Posted by Gibo, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 3:03:53 PM
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Dear Orlando,

Some memories can be extremely painful
and difficult for others to understand
who have not experienced what obviously
you/and or, your family suffered.

However, the people that caused the
damage are probably no longer alive
today.

They're not the ones who will be operating
the plant in Darwin. You can't hold an
entire nation responsible for what
some members did during World War II.

We do have Japanese investments
throughout Australia from motor car factories
to resorts, hotels, et cetera, that provide
employment for the local population.

For your own sake, difficult as it may be,
you have to let go of the baggage that
you're carrying - and move on.

Take care.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 3 October 2008 2:32:12 PM
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Dear Foxy what you say is true. The past must be let go but in order for this to happen the past must be acknowledged. Until the Japanese Government accepts responsibility for Japan's actions in the past this is unlikely to happen. INPEX's attitude to the Australian Government and to Australia's laws and protocols is arrogant in the extreme. INPEX is not a private company, it is a government agency. Inpex refused to negotiate with the Kimberly Land Council and was not prepared to observe environmental standards in the KImberly or the offshore islands and seabed. One has to ask why?
Bear in mind that Japanese schoolchildren are still being fed a jingoistic version of history; that there are still Ministers in the Japanese Diet with self proclaimed reactionary views and that the primary war memorial in Tokyo honours, among others, 600 Class A war criminals. A number of Government Ministers did not support the apology and offer of reparations to the "comfort women" either so one must realise that letting go is not the same as forgetting. Hence my suggestion of excavating the dead on Darwin's beaches, who were buried in mass graves and without ceremony. It would provide a good test of Japan's sincerity in their dealings with Australia.
Posted by orlando55, Friday, 3 October 2008 3:35:31 PM
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Dear Orlando,

I fully agree with you.

Recognition of past atrocities by Nations would
indeed be the best way to move on.

Yet how often do we
see that happening?

In the case of Japan, I don't see it happening
any time soon.

However, putting pressure on our Government regarding
this plant in Darwin may get some results if you can get
enough people to back you.

I wish you luck.

I remember many years ago my father took me to hear
Weary Dunlop speak about his war time experiences.
It was a very emotional afternoon. The calibre
of the man made a great impact on me. Especially
his ability to forgive.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 3 October 2008 4:37:14 PM
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