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When the Anti-Discrimination Board discriminates?

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I am sorry that I haven’t had a chance to come on and respond. Apart from working part time 4/5 days per week, looking after the house, hubby and 4 kids (two doing the HSC) and being responsible for the paperwork involved in the business, I have been trying to get my head around some matters to do with an FOI application that we have lodged at the ADT wherein we ask the DET to produce documents that prove that they have investigated our complaints. I have a date that it needs to be done; I have been working well into the night.

It is amazing how the DET presents their list of the documents. They are not in date order, they are not grouped in anyway, all 85 entries all random so it is very hard to get a clear picture and you can get confused.

The thing is that after I made the original complaints of the neglect of the education of our children and the bullying treatment by ‘some’ teachers things started happening to my children that on the face of it appeared ‘obviously wrong’ and the children were always coming home upset and they didn’t want to go to school and that the teachers didn’t like them.

After we were advised of test results for OC and Selective High School tests that the children said that they had to see to believe we requested documents under FOI. Documents produced under FOI showed evidence of bias, tampering and manipulation that negatively impacted on my children and family. We complained but they have just allowed the persons against whom we had made the complaints to deal with the complaints and close the matter.

Problem is that they then targeted my younger children. They wanted to maintain the picture that the children were not that smart and that I was just a crazy pushy parent. But I have never pushed my children, they developed very quickly and they were that smart and had special educational needs.

To be continued
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:00:51 PM
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The most important thing here is that we made formal allegations of bias and discrimination and we had documents to back it up. The type of discrimination was more than somebody just making a decision not to pick our kids for a team, class or part of a school. This discrimination involved somebody actively going in after hours and manipulating with our children’s test marks, school applications and scores in order to present a negative picture of our children so that they would be unsuccessful. It also involved somebody presenting very negative reports and analysis on myself and the abilities of our 4 children.

The DET has refused to accept even fresh complaints in relation to the younger kids even though we have documentary evidence to support our allegations and just said that the complaints were the type of complaint as before and that the matter had been investigated and closed. However they refuse to produce proof of their investigation.

These people have not been stopped and they have continued to target the kids for over 8 years. Two of my kids are doing their HSC and they are worried about their marks. It isn’t right that the DET can ignore legitimate complaints, defame parents and not protect the children.

I will try to answer later a bit more but unfortunately I have to do invoicing.
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:02:55 PM
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STG how inept is a public servant permitted to be in relation to matters pertaining to one family? You can make one 'mistake' or maybe two but if you make mistake, after mistake, after mistake in relation to the same children, year after year, it has to be questioned.

Some people don't understand that it is my children who are complaining, I am merely advocating for them as it isn't fair to put children up against bully adults.

Veronica the most difficult years were the Primary school years as they are very sensitive, emotional children and it hurt them to be treated so unfairly and for nobody to care. We also didn't have enough money to offer them choice. As we fought back in order to clear our name it became easier for them and they hold their head high. My kids are very big on social justice and they do not like bullies and they see the bigger picture and they want things to be better.

Educationally, emotionally and psychologically my kids suffered, especially in the Primary years. The years when they had a mean or bad teacher were horrible as they were bored and scared day after day. They didn't feel safe.

After a few years they basically lost interest in school, hated going and started wished their life away. They have bad memories of their early school learning experience and school.

I don't do things too differently for my kids I just have to provide them with love, food, books, and very fast internet acess - one computer each. Computers has made it easy to keep kids occupied and amused. They also all play competition sports and are very talented in the sporting arena.

The kids have never had problems with friends. My children socialise well at whatever level they choose to socialise. They are not your in your face type gifted children, they are humble and they are good kids who love a good, clean challenge. The type of kids the adults in system like to crush.......
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:44:47 PM
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Mjpb. It is nice to hear from somebody who understands and has an open mind about the issues.

The thing is that 'intelligence' doesn't represent a position in society or a level of achievement. All 'intelligence' represents is a need, a need to have information presented at a higher and faster level and speed and a need to have access to other people of similar intelligence who have similar interests and needs. Otherwise school and socializing can be a drag and a nightmare and students have to spend a lot of time there.

Country girl it amazes me that my fighting for our children’s right to be protected and treated fairly and without bias and discrimination is interpreted by you as revenge and vindication. I can’t help but wonder how that works? Maybe you could explain?
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21:27 PM
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All,

StG resolved the ambiguity by advising that he was referring to inept public servants in his original comment which is good. Unfortunately he included flaming which apparently resulted in the post being deleted.

StG,

Sorry for any misunderstanding but if you look at the context you'll probably see why I was mistaken and why noone else pulled me up. As you can see Yolanda was just busy. The fact that I respond to your posts wasn't the reason she was silent.

Yolanda,

You are welcome. Intelligence certainly doesn't guarantee a particular place in society. The media trots out research on that from time to time. I had more to say on the particular examples cited if it remained topical.
Posted by mjpb, Friday, 12 September 2008 8:22:31 AM
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mjpb.

The 'ambiguity' is laid squarely at your feet, or mind. Country Gal came back and asked the same question as me.

The deleted post is there, less two words.

I didn't think she was silent because you were talking for her. My question was directed at her, and her alone. I knew she'd come back to her topic to attempt to answer any questions anyone might have. Which she did.

Just for the record, I'm still not convinced it's discrimination. It does seem there's an issue of some description, but discrimination?, I haven't seen any evidence of it.
Posted by StG, Friday, 12 September 2008 8:39:45 AM
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