(The subconscious and the conscious realm's).

When we dream, we are entertained with all sorts of images, some nice some not so nice, and chemicals can play a roll in enhancing them. Look at the two half's and imagine there's a firewall separating. Some say the subconscious part of the mind is connected with parallel universes, and if this is true, when this firewall breaks down, all sort of strange and wonderful things starts to happen, and if this is the case, it just might explain a lot about human nature.

You do get some people, that after the experience has passed, they cant remember nothing at all.

Just some food for thought.

EVO

Dear runner,

My grandfather (dad's father) was a religious man.
But he didn't make a big thing of it.
He actually talked to "spirits." That is, friends of
his who had passed away. Dad used to tell us that
grandad spoke to them constantly.
That he could see them.
No one thought this was odd.
It was just grandad.

I remember a story that dad told us once about
grandad going out for an evening walk near the forest
where they lived and not returning home.

When the family and friends set out looking for him,
they searched all through the night with no success.

Finally, in the early hours of the morning they found
grandad standing in a spot near a swamp. Dad was so relieved
to find his father alive and well. He saw that if
grandad had taken one more step, he would have fallen
into quicksand and perished.

When dad told grandad, "You're so lucky to have stood
where you did." Grandad replied, "Luck had nothing to
do with it. I couldn't move if I wanted to. Something
was holding me to this spot. I was forced to
stand where I was until the sun rose, and you found
me."

Dad never doubted what his father told him.
And, I never doubted my father's version of events.

Foxy

I am not doubting that spirits exist (in fact the opposite). I worked with a man who spoke regularly to his (Spirit guide). Who these spirits are is what is open to debate. Many have experienced spirits and or lights when physically dying on operating tables. I recently met a man (total agnostic) who had an outer body experience when dying on the operating table. Jesus promised His followers the Holy Spirit. Opening oneself up to the spiritual realm without Christ is foolish and thwart with danger. There are very few people in the lunie bins who don't claim to have had spiritual encounters.

While not questioning the Christians right to believe what they wish,it should be noted the Bible tells us to dead remain dead for the present.
The old house I once lived in, rared kids in, was not silent after mums death.
It was full of the sounds I was used to, was it spirits? or my brain?
No one can be sure I felt comfortable there always.
Being a 4x4 deep bush camper I have heard even seen things that could be misinterpreted.
But much of our understanding is incomplete, if we look deeper some things are quite normal.
I have seen 4 grown men get out of the bush in pure fear after seeing trees broken ten feet above the ground and a large dead log pulled apart.
All the work of hungry birds seeking grubs.
I saw no need to stop the headlong rush to leave and to this day have not told them the Yowi had wings.

*There are very few people in the lunie bins who don't claim to have had spiritual encounters. Posted by runner, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 2:14:58 PM*

Runner, please do not refer to those with mental disorders in Mental Health Facilities as being in "lunie bins." It is very disrespectful to those suffering and is the type of language that perpetuates a negative stereotypical view of mental health patients. Oh, and just out of curiosity, what survey or research findings are you referring to when you made that sweeping generalization?

I have another story. Many years ago whilst working as a nurse I was called to help a patient who had collapsed. She was in cardiac arrest- no pulse- no breathing. I summoned help and commenced CPR. I was doing CPR for about 8-10 minutes (felt like hours!) when the Intensive Care Team (ICT) arrived. The cardiac monitor confirmed asystole (flat-line- no cardiac activity) They defibriallated the patient a couple of times and managed to get the heart started again.

The patient was transferred to the Intensive Care Unit. When she was roused some time later she commented to her care team that the nurse with the accent who worked on him sure swore like a trouper. I was over the moon that she survived- but a bit freaked out about what she saw and heard. She saw me run to grab a breathing mask and I was in fact swearing like a trouper. Thank goodness this did not become a ghost story per se. So there you go- another true story.

Conclusion! I guess you just have to be there. Been around belly! I doubt that.

All the best!

EVO