I think this string has just about had it’d day, so I will summaries discussion as I see it.

The most disturbing matter to come from this is the lack of empathy shown for Australian citizens by Australians. CJ Morgan I feel typifies this when his fellow man is in pain and suffering, and dying at a faster rate than the national road toll, he just calls them losers. The lack of recognition of this absolute disaster and empathy from our fellow man shows to me the dreadful direction Australia is heading, but worse, there is no possibility of this ever changing while this disease is so prevalent amongst it’s citizens.

To make it worse again, it appears that only a strain of women recognize that there is a problem and are taking up the fight for the men of the country. Talk about the reverse role! It is us men who should be protecting our women and families. Fractelle demonstrated to the contributors of this forum that there is a problem – she knows. Thanks Fractelle, but you are wasting your time with this bunch.

I have expressed my thoughts about Sharkfin’s contribution. Sad, but typical. Some like Polycarp show good directional responsibility.

With all the others agreeing with the decline in Australian masculinity and that the real man images like John Wayne are anachronistic – I feel sorry for you all. I don’t see man’s future role in society as second fiddle to women and increasingly becoming poofters because there is no longer any need for women to appear attractive to their partners etc – nor comply with any family values. Complex? – not at all – just all very simple and traditional.

Check out this site people. http://www.mensrights.com.au/ Also run by a women. See you in the next debate over similar issues.

Very disappointed gang, but I’m grateful that a family orientated country like the Philippines has taken me in.

' I feel sorry for you all. I don’t see man’s future role in society as second fiddle to women and increasingly becoming poofters because there is no longer any need for women to appear attractive to their partners etc – nor comply with any family values'

Haha. How Bizare.