Ah Philips

Yes the truth is something that can be verified.

What i have said can be.

Constitutional debates
lindberg petition

Its all there.

So really it is the suppresion of the truth that treats the people like mushrooms.

Only tell them what they want them to hear.

I have the truth, and i will keep fighting for that.

Dear Tapp,

If yu've got the "truth" as you say you do,
then you're one of the fortunate
people.

I find that for me - life is an ongoing process
of learning - and I'm still discovering the "truth"
bit by bit. Especially about myself.
I'm certainly not the same person I was when I was
so much younger. Getting an education, having children,
raising a family, working, inter-acting with my peers,
family and friends - all this changes a person, life around us changes and impacts
on us. As the saying goes, "the only constant is change."

I look at our elderly parents, caring for them and their
problems also adds to the way I view life.
I admire their stamina and perseverance despite the difficulties
both physical and mental that they have to put up with.

Anyway, if you're content with knowing what you know,
I'm happy for you.

Enjoy mocking my comments, phillips, because that's all you can do. Go ahead and question my agenda. You can do so freely and I have never claimed otherwise. Please repeat your thoughts here.

Belly “I believe the old fashioned idea we should not talk religion or politics is so we may not learn the truth.”

I think there was a caveat on that proposal, something to do with when engaging in polite conversation (after dinner etc).

I do not think it was to be considered am absolute maxim.

As an opinion forum, I would expect people to “push their own barrow”, politically, ethically or on any other yardstick of values.

Personally, for me politics is not simply about truth and untruth, I demand truth in all things but politics is about how people seek to resolve issues and challenges (the art of the possible).

Here is where the divide of opinion lies, not with the what is truth but the how should things be done.

Simple examples,

some believe a carbon tax to be a good thing and essential to the future of the national economy. I do not.

Some believe a wealthy society is only achieved by doing everything to ensure equal outcomes. I do not

Some believe the government would be more effective if it did only the minimum rather than stuff up what it and its bureaucrats have no competency in and simply waste tax payers funds to follow pipe dreams and quixotic windmills – and I agree with them.

It is rarely the “what”, invariably the “how” and the “should we anyway”.

That gives lots of stuff for us all to express lots of opinion on and to impassion ourselves and maybe even inspire others to a value we, each as individuals, hold.

I write to promote my ideas !
For me the forum is an other way, an other opportunity, an other tool to fight for my ideas! Most times I do not read the main article at all!
I read the title and I grab the opportunity!
My time is very limited, my English is bad but if I think I can promote my ideas I WILL DO IT!

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Foxy:"Or maybe its simply that as I grow older,
I am beginning to realize just how little
I actually know."

My dad's favourite saying when confronted with one of the mysteries of life was "the more I know, the more I know I don't know". I agree with him and you.

One of the reasons I like to participate in forums such as this is that it gives me a chance to reflect my own views from the sometimes warped mirror of others' perceptions, often leading to a new view on something I thought I understood and always causing me to make the best effort I can to obtain a clear image from the fuzz.

Of course, some of those mirrors are too cracked to return any kind of meaningful image, but the exercise of trying is still worthwhile.

Belly, I think we discuss politics no more or less than we would in our lives. My own friendships are nearly all with people who can hold an intelligent discussion on political issues and not just regurgitate the current propaganda from whichever side of the Parliament they favour. I find that those people unwilling to discuss the issues of our society are, on the whole, limited in the other topics they think about as well. Long live political discourse!