My goodness - what a strange reaction from you Paul.
Socratease must certainly have pushed your buttons.

But name calling does not solve the problem. Nor using
words like "squealing," "pig," or "pathetic."
It still does not offer any solutions to the topic of this
thread - which is - Robert Mugabe, an 87 year old tyrant,
who's been in power for over 27 years...

Still, I suppose if the free world doesn't care about
Ethiopia, why should it care about Zimbabwe?

Cynical? I think Africans have a right to be.

I'm called a sick and tired Lefty by those who are frightened by the truths I expose.Well,let me expose another.
There is no such thing as the "free" world....There have been power blocks who have vested interests to control parts of the world for their own interest.
From the beginning there was the example of Kashmiris who compose 90% of the land were promised a plebicite in 1947 to decide whether they wished to cede to Pakistan or remain in India.That promise has never yet been honored. In central India the UN Charter gave independence to Hyderabad in central India. A year later Indian troops annexed the state and it no longer exists as an independent state. Anyone remember?Any one care?
The Nagas of Nagaland and the people of Magalaya have since 1947 been trying to establish their own states and have never enjoyed self-determination as was promised them by Lord Mountbatten and Nehru.

Pol Pot was allowed to massacre over 6 million men,women and children while the UN looked on without a trace of interest or pity.
In the Balkans the UN handed thousands of Muslims over to mere 500 Dutch (or were they Belgian?) soldiers to protet them.What happened at Sarajevo? They were massacred by Mladic who today struts around Serbian watering holes in full view of KFOR troops and hasnt been brought to justice.
In Rwanda the UNO had a week's warning of the massacre that was being openly planned but nothing was done to stop it. Millions died.
Darfur, Ethiopia, northern Kenya, Somalia ... need I go on?
It's all a game of dominos and chess to the world powers..human beings are used as pieces to play around with and pain and death are their only rewards.

socratease

Yes Paul L your reaction was over the top, but it showed you are in fact a radical.
80 dead? can you truly think only 80 died because of the monster?
Proudly and forever I am opposed to your views if that makes me a loony lefty so be it

Belly – I don’t know how correct Paul number of 80 is but what he is trying to say is that all people like you are interested in doing is talking about it! Talking about how terrible it is! Talking about how somebody should do something to stop him! And yet when a man worse then Mugabe (Saddam) is kicked out you carry on like it was a better idea to leave him in power! And you and foxy say that the real criminasl are now the Australians, Poms and Americans!

Your position is – You don’t like these people in power BUT you don’t want anybody to remove them from power using force! The sad thing is Belly you are a smart person but your credibility is diminished when you honestly think that asking people like Mugabe and Saddam to leave power “nicely” that they will listen! History has ALWAYS proved you wrong. The only person you are fooling is yourself!

The UN is a joke it will never do anything but pass resolutions or at most impose sanctions. It is too much of a committee with to many interest groups to ever conclude to take divisive action.

Foxy the only way to get Mugabe out is to find a trigger! (Mugabe supporting a terrorist attack would be good) But alas Mugabe is just a greedy common dictator and not interested in world affairs but only interested in lining the pockets of himself and that of his hench men at the expense of the people of Zimbabwe. So at most we will have sanctions and will have to wait till Mugabe dies of natural causes till there is any chance to help Zimbabwe

Easy Times Paul L is saying a lot more than that I disagree with most of what he is saying.
You too get it wrong read on mate.
At the time of this Iraq war I was for it.
I have often stated that here.
I thought the WOMD existed ,in fact they may well have been smuggled into Iran.
A facts just getting rid of Saddam and his sons would have justified the war for me.
A whole history of miss handling the whole war by America made me anti war.
Did you not cringe at those photos?
The rapes?
At every friendly fire death from day one?
Do you know how I would get rid of Robert Mugabe?
If south Africa was truly interested in freedom for Africans they would invade Zimbabwe.
How do you get from that the idea I am sitting back doing nothing?
I know putting flowers in the barrels of our guns and throwing them away only insures our defeat.
But unless America has a new party leading it and finds new directions I no longer believe they lead my world

Belly,

Well then you are in the minority on the left mate. So many that I come across merely repeat the ill considered slogans of the anti-US lobby.

I agree with you that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan has been mishandled. But there are clear indications that we can win in Iraq and we have a duty to do so, considering all the promises we've made, all the lives we've lost and the money which has been spent. I'll be happy to see the back of Bush but Obama is a big problem. His strict time line for withdrawal will throw away any chance of leaving Iraq as a stable democracy. It is a recipe for disaster. Withdrawal must be based upon the improvement in the ability of the Iraqi gov't to maintain order. Specifically the ability of the Iraqi army to put down the insurgency.

When you talk about rapes, are you talking about American solders?? Because if you are you should know that ugly acts like that are not in ANY WAY indicative of the behaviour of the average soldier. They are isolated incidents which occur whenever you have 150,000 people in one place.

I deplore the abuses at Abu Ghraib but there is so much more at stake. Iraq has the potential to be the first Arab democracy. The people have shown by the turnout on voting day of their preference.

I may have been a little harsh with socratease but I am sick and tired of the whole "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" mantra. It's obviously not right, and I think I showed that.

Furthermore I agree with his assessment of the UN and their failure to act during Rwanda, Bosnia, Darfur and other conflicts. As I've already said, having China and Russia with a veto in the Security Council makes that body a joke.

Mugabe has certainly been responsible for much suffering but he is NOT in the same league as Saddam Hussein. I defy anyone to show otherwise.