Paul L in my view some of your thoughts are extreme.
I proudly am from the left.
I too got conned by the weapons of mass destruction and at first thought we had no choice but to remove Saddam, I was wrong.
You overlook the nigh mare of Zimbabwe, the mass murders of Mugabe.
Have you forgotten Mugabe is a leftist?
Or that North Korea is communist?
Surely in trying to sell Americas worst ever president Bush to me you overlook his polling even in his own party?
Never forget some who walked in Mugabe's shoes in south America did so with sponsorship of America.
Some good things come from right left and center to think this is not true is extremism.
Some of my fellow travelers will take offense but the world must free north Korea Zimbabwe, and every slave nation at any cost.
And the world takes a step forward the day Bush leaves the white house

The only salvation Zimbabwe can expect is if tomorrow geologists declare they have found easy access to unlimited resources of gas and petroleum in the country.
Then suddenly you'll see one hell of a rush of countries all wanting to send in the troops to liberate the poor suffering people under that rogue-ape,Mugabe.

International politics is obscene and ugly.Hate it, Ugh-h-h!

socratease

Dear Belly,

I wonder if Zimbabwe had oil - would the US and UK
and their allies still do nothing about Robert Mugabe?

They went into Iraq to remove one dictator,
yet they're ignoring this monster.

It seems a bit of a double-standard here.

Dear Belly,

It seems that socratease and I posted
at the same time - with similar
thoughts.

And the saddest thing is you are both right.
We humans must confront the fact we matter less than power or money.
This mornings news says some African leaders want a government of national unity, they clearly have blood on their hands.
It is true that if the true government was able to lead Mugabe's murderers would start a war but what cost freedom?
Mugabe is not going to be the last leader to hide beneath Chinas shadow, in truth we should demand the games be canceled if they do not lean on him.

Socratease,

>> “The only salvation Zimbabwe can expect is if tomorrow geologists declare they have found easy access to unlimited resources of gas and petroleum in the country.

That’s just pathetic. You guys squeal like stuck pigs when we got rid of Hussein, who killed hundreds of thousands of his own people. Yet Mugabe has only killed 80 odd opposition supporters and you guys are beside yourselves

Don’t get me wrong I’m all for getting rid of Mugabe. It’s just funny that the squealers from the left weren’t too upset when Mugabe used his thugs to murder similar, or greater, numbers of white farmers, and scare the remainder off their land.

Tell me Socratease, Have they found oil or gas in Bosnia? NO? How about in Kososvo? No again, Well maybe they found oil and gas in Somalia?? Really? they didn’t find it their either? Well I just don't understand it at all. NOT!!

Your world weary cynicism is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

After the left’s protests over the two wars we have, who would be stupid enough to take on another.