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The dying are draining more than money, Should we learn to pull the plug?

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Wendy what a kind and generous offer...if im ever up your way ill make it a point to look you up..i live a good 2-4 days from Qld so its no mean feat just getting there, but ive been promising my lot that one day we,ll get to do Seaworld etc...perhaps next year.

What a kind and generous spirit you have...dont ever cahnge.
Posted by OZGIRL, Friday, 8 September 2006 10:02:03 AM
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To Alphafemale and all the wonderful folk who have written to support her. We are an octogenerian couple who are about to celebrate our diamond wedding anniversary (60 loving years). We do not pretend that we have not had some rough patches. but it has been a wonderful journey. We have 3 children, 6 grandchildren and 9 great grand children. As all except 1 live interstate and have their own lives to live, we have almost lost contact with most of them. No matter,we have each other. We are fortunate that we both have no serious medical problems but we have made it clear to all that when we do suffer an incurable condition and become a burden on the family or society we do NOT wish to have any steps taken to prolong life. If my wife were to be taken before me then I am determined that I will surely follow her as soon as possible as life without her would be unbearable. Our answer to you is a resounding YES.
Posted by ALAMO, Friday, 8 September 2006 2:25:03 PM
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ozgirl.

Gee Thanks. Coming from You I treasure that. Remember I mean it.

I read your story and thought wow .

ALAMO. And The world is a little richer for your sharing your story.

Does anybody know the main objection and where it comes from with the right to die with dignity?
I know its church groups but Alfafemale Do you know which one mainly?

This is a lovely post Alfafemale. I always feel so welcome and mentally realxed on this post unlike my Animal Welfare work.

You have really started something here for the better. I hope you will keep this post open forever so people can come and talk and receive support.
Its a nice place to be. I am glad ozgirl told me about it.
How is your brother Alfafemale?
And how are you really Ozgirl.

Goodnight Fair Ladies and I will pray for you all and the animals and the elderly who are so lonely and in nursing homes.
And all That while I kick the but out of the church groups about animal welfare[grin]
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Saturday, 9 September 2006 12:40:49 AM
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Regarding religious objections to voluntary euthanasia:

http://www.euthanasia.cc/religion.html

Extract from this website:

"Official church policies usually oppose euthanasia. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest single funder opposed to euthanasia. It invests more money in its fight against euthanasia than all the combined resources of right to die societies around the world many times over.

Tactics in support of the Roman Catholic Church's position apparently include disinformation (usually claiming no safeguards) and threats of excommunication - this was well documented in the heated campaigns of the USA and elsewhere.

Of the other churches, the Episcopalian (Anglican) Unitarian, Methodist, Presbyterian and Quaker movements are amongst the most liberal, allowing at least individual decision making in cases of active euthanasia. Hindu and Sikh Dharma may also leave it to individual conscience.

Nowadays, few faiths prohibit passive euthanasia, or refusal of treatment decisions. Those that do tend to oppose it include conservative Evangelicals, Islam, and the Mormon Church."

But most "believers" don't agree with their official church policy:

"Opinion polls consistently show a majority of people professing all variety of faiths support a change in the law for voluntary euthanasia. Even amongst Roman Catholics, more people support euthanasia than oppose it (a poll in Scotland showed over 50% support, in spite of the church's opposition)."

So why do so many people stay with a religion which they don't agree with on some basic issues? Perhaps for a similar reason that many of us continue to vote for politicians who we don't like, respect or trust. Because we find ourselves in a position where we try to choose the least of the available evils.

I typed religious objection to voluntary euthanasia into Google and got lots of good info.
Posted by Rex, Saturday, 9 September 2006 3:01:30 PM
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