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The dying are draining more than money, Should we learn to pull the plug?

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alphafemale, in answer to your question.

Yes I'd tick such a box but be very nervous is a Qld Health bean counter was involved in making the decision as to when I'd reached that point.

It could get a bit like the "bring out your dead" scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Apart from those who'd rather see people suffer a long drawn out death than offend the less than clearly stated objections of their god to a clean exit I see little real objection except that someone more concerned about a different agenda might want to bring the process on early.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:57:19 PM
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It's outrageous the way assorted religious beliefs are forced onto the Australian community, whether we agree with them or not. For those who say that only God can decide when a person's life on earth is to end, then I would answer this. When a person is suffering terrible pain and incapacity from a terminal condition and is kept alive only by the intervention of other human beings, using drugs and/or machines, then it could fairly be said [by those who believe in God], that God has already decided to bring that person's earthly existence to an end.
Posted by Rex, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 1:08:48 PM
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great Posts

Wheres Philo

imagine

take pills your about to
Philo rocks up

Speaking of

An older lady gets pulled over for speeding...
Older Woman: Is there a problem, Officer?

Officer: Ma'am, you were speeding.

Older Woman: Oh, I see.

Officer: Can I see your license please?

Older Woman: I'd give it to you but I don't have one.

Officer: Don't have one?

Older Woman: Lost it, 4 years ago for drunk driving.

Officer: I see...Can I see your vehicle registration papers please.

Older Woman: I can't do that.

Officer: Why not?

Older Woman: I stole this car.

Officer: Stole it?

Older Woman: Yes, and I killed and hacked up the owner.
Officer: You what?

Older Woman: His body parts are in plastic bags in the trunk if you
want to see

The Officer looks at the woman and slowly backs away to his car and
calls for back up. Within minutes 5 police cars circle the car. A
senior officer slowly approaches the car, clasping his half drawn
gun.

Officer 2: Ma'am, could you step out of your vehicle please! The
woman steps out of her vehicle.

Older woman: Is there a problem sir?

Officer 2: One of my officers told me that you have stolen this car
and murdered the owner.
Older Woman: Murdered the owner?

Officer 2: Yes, could you please open the trunk of your car, please.

The woman opens the trunk, revealing nothing but an empty trunk.

Officer 2: Is this your car, ma'am?
Older Woman: Yes, here are the registration papers. The officer is
quite stunned.

Officer 2: One of my officers claims that you do not have a driving
license.

The woman digs into her handbag and pulls out a clutch purse and
hands it to the officer.

The officer examines the license. He looks quite puzzled.

Officer 2: Thank you ma'am, one of my officers told me you didn't
have a license, that you stole this car, and that you murdered and
hacked up the owner.

Older Woman: Bet the liar told you I was speeding, too.

Don't Mess With Old Ladies
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 1:50:50 PM
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Probably timely here to mention Phillipe Nitshke?(that spelling may not be correct)also known as DR death..?

I think he fought most of his battles with the church and 'right to life' groups regarding this didnt he?
Posted by OZGIRL, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 2:57:24 PM
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Wendy

ROFL

I thank you and I thank your mother and father who made you possible and I thank the universe for the atoms that make up your existence.

YES
Posted by Scout, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 2:57:58 PM
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I thank all of you for your personal and valid comments. I will endeavour to change old habits with my impersonal writing style. I am unused to being emotional due to career and single female amongst 32 males at work. I am called Alph by them and I suppose you would say I have agreed to work with the pack not against.
I was raised by a single working mother in the years of no Centrelink. I had an alcoholic father who died in a very similar way to your father Scout. When we moved to Brisbane, I grew up in nursing homes through my mothers work and my first born also did while I worked and studied and Nanna babysat.
It was beneficial for my maturity and also my daughters and most of all the elderly. There are some wonderful families who believe a nursing home is just a second home to give more care and less stress for the families but they do not abandon their relatives. I admire the loyalty and family core these people believe in.
There are people who find it too hard to visit as their relatives are in later stages of dementia and alzcheimer's a cruel and horrible fater first for the person going through it and when memory disappears cruel for the loved ones who see the parent that is now gone but still there.
Then there are the abandoned. They sit in their corners relying on some not all but still some very wonderful staff and volunteers to give them a little care and physical and emotional touch each day.Their independence gone their rights gone. When they were able to say yes or no, what do I want with my last years of life. Is that when we should think of having decisions made in living wills, before we have no pride and dignity to say what we want and demand for our life which is all we have control over.
Posted by alphafemale, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 8:42:47 PM
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