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On the topic of claims :-):

"On pulling round the shores of the sea, we saw an immense column, rounded and turret-shaped, facing toward the southeast. This, we were told by our Arabs, was the Pillar of Salt, in which Lot's wife was encased at the overthrow of Sodom . . . It was measured, and found to be sixty feet in height, and forty-five feet in circumference.

We cannot suppose that Lot's wife was a person so large that her dimensions equalled those of this column."

- Lieutenant Lynch's diary edited by Edward P. Montague and published in 1849. Montigue expedition.

Boazy, do you realise how much nuclear energy would released, were the atoms of a human rearranged to create say 60 kg of salt? It would create a deep crator, kilometres-wide, I suspect: A bigger show than Sodom and Gomorrah:

Lot, in the vacinity, would have been vaporised [together with a huge land mass, and much of the Dead Sea].

Oly.. you might like to peek at the Hawaiian flood myth and see what you see :)

Then you could interpret it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(mythology)#Polynesian

{In Hawaii, a human couple, Nu'u and Lili-noe, survived a flood on top of Mauna Kea on the Big Island. Nu'u made sacrifices to the moon, to whom he mistakenly attributed his safety. Kāne, the creator god, descended to earth on a rainbow, explained Nu'u's mistake, and accepted his sacrifice.}

Notice any similarities to the NOAH flood ? :) note also the presense of a Rainbow in the Hawaiian.

Hello Boazy,

A little tied-up crushing numbers for my own research.

Happy to compare the Biblical and Hawaiian accounts.

What are your "academic" references, regarding the conclusive finding of the Cities of the Plain" and others denying its existence: e.g., Sodom? Based on the trickleof modern peer-reviewed journal article returns from several databases, at the present time; I posit, achaeologists and geologists do not appear to be much interested in the topic.

Please note, my above comment regarding Lot's wife. The rearrangement atoms would release "huge" amounts of nuclear energy.

Morphing elements usually occurs in stars. Sol is a fusion reactor. Similarly, a partical accelerator applies "trillions" of electron volts of power. Transmuting sixty kilograms of human to salt? Think about it? What would be the consequences?

WOW, Hawaiians has rainbows? I did not know that.

How long have native Hawaiians estimated to have been on the islands?

"I ran the keyword, "Sodom", against some a few archaelogical journals on a university database, and did not find this claim within the archaelogical "community"

While the status of Bethlehem in the space-time depicted in the NT is not evidential, the Sodom factor is not in the same category. Because this city is described as destroyed by an act of natural impact, akin to a nuclear disaster, and not by a war - this is in a sense evidenced by the dead sea bearing such impacts: it is even today heavy with phosphates and calcium salts which appears melted off the surrounding mountain and earthly elements, with no similarities of such terrains and seas in its surrounds or any place on the planet.

To be fair to the NT, it may be better to list what is provable, than what is not. Because if there are any factual, historical provables, it casts a positive light on other items; if there are no provables anyplace then it likewise indicates another factor. The problem with the NT is it is based solely on 'belief' - with no histrical back-up, while it is making epochial claims upon history, science, maths, the universe, the creator, and other beliefs.

The NT has put millions of genuine, wanton believers at a precarious position: that if the NT is not seen as true, then they have no belief in a Creator - a diabolical situation to make in the absence of any evidences, and in contradiction of everything else held. Not to mention the villification and doom it casts upon any who do not accept it - another diabolical premise. Of note is that this form is emulated by the quran, and that both these beliefs emerged in the same space-time, under the same premise of dislodging a 2000 year precedent religion - while that religion was deemed dead and free for the taking. It is diabolically suspicious. Imagine if your blue and gold car was stolen that way - and two people fighting over it's ownership are also trying to kill you - the original owner!

Re ""On pulling round the shores of the sea, we saw an immense column, rounded and turret-shaped, facing toward the southeast. This, we were told by our Arabs, was the Pillar of Salt, in which Lot's wife was encased at the overthrow of Sodom . . . It was measured, and found to be sixty feet in height, and forty-five feet in circumference. "

The arab race was not around at this time. There were no arabs before 500 BCE; the arab race emerged after Greece conquered Persia, as gangs offering protection from invading [western] foreigners, then took over countries such as Egypt from the precedent copts. There was no arabic writings till 350 CE. Sodom perished 4000 years ago. Get the maths and history correct, then use the source as an evidence.