“I forgot to answer your question, ‘Can pi represent the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in a null-realm without the existence of God?’

No, of course not.”

Foxy, I’ll take that as being the same as being without the existence of the universe.

Yes pi can represent that ratio……which would be of zero to zero…….which is one!!

editors comment says too much use of["-"]characters

God IS Over ans above any symbol
ie Pi r Squared , [above]that and so much more

god is logus [logic] law, light , life and love

(Y+H+V+H] =[means] = yod-heh-uav-heh =[means]= TO be ,

that can be further abriviated as yah= yod-heh, yaho,yeho,

yhwh equals EL is mercy and grace[ex 34;6]

for yhwh = your god is mercyfull EL [deut[4;31]

and your yhwh = mercyfull and pardoning EL [ps 86;15

god = I AM

/(22/7)r2\ [equals] only the formula for an approximation of the circum-ference of a circle

In a null-realm,
nothing could be , nor could it even be a realm

n.
1. A community or territory over which a sovereign rules; a kingdom.
2. A field, sphere, or province: the realm of science. See Synonyms at field.

[Middle English realme, from Old French, alteration (influenced by Old French reial, royal) of Latin regimen, government, from regere, to rule; see reg-in Indo-European roots.]

would 2 + 2 still equal 4,
becomes subject to reality that underpins the realm ,if a realm it needs have a sovereign [ie god]

reveal the reality i will still say judging by this one rewalm alone [as logus [logic] is here thus god is here
thus in a realm yes 2+2 would yet = 4

if god did not exist
that is incorrect [god does egsist [where ever logic life light love is , is his realm]

if no god [there would only be nothing
but a seeming dark deep void [even devoid of life light and love is yet a 'realm'

Moreover,even in a null-realm;

the existence of god is revealed by his logic
his life and his love
hope this gives you light
HIS LIGHT

Dear Oliver,

I'm not as clever as I thought I was.

This is one challenge of yours that I obviously don't get.

Thank heavens you restated, Oliver. I didn't understand it the first time round, and felt totally inadequate as a result.

>>Philo, George, Foxy, Pericles, Boaz, et al., Restated: Can 1 + 1 = 2 exist, as a hypothical construct, in a non physical realm outside of God or this universe? If, neither God nor this universe existed, would 1 + 1 still equal 2?<<

Your question, as you very well know, cannot be answered in its present form.

You have - presumably deliberately - conflated two concepts: God and the Universe. Your question in its present form does not allow these to be separated.

If you were to say "Can 1 + 1 = 2 exist, as a hypothical construct, in a non physical realm outside this universe?", we would be able to discuss the possibility of there being a universe in which the addition of two numbers might never be required, in which case neither "1" nor "+" would have any meaning.

Unfortunately, as with many situations we face in our everyday lives, adding God to the equation renders any intelligent discussion impossible.

One Under God

Thank you for your efforts with the equation. You are correct, I was playing with the Hewbrew style of dropping vowles. More later.

Editorial: All the + signs [you said hyphens] were needed for the play using equation. I wasn't cheating the word limit.

Foxy,

Thanks for the compliment. Might not be deserved, if I am confusing folks.

Good work you have commenced building a model of the concept of God from a religionist [not all believers are Christian] perspective. Something, which failed emerge, when I asked for an explanation of god.

H1: If x exists; then y does exist. [Only god can allow existence of non-existence in a null-realm.]

H2: If x does not exist; then y cannot exist.

Ho: If x does not exist; then y cannnot exist. The Null Realm, The Realm of Formulae cannot exist.

Where x = God;
Where y = Null realm

You have stated your opinion. Only god can create a null-realm in which mathematical formulae can exist. That is your position. I fully recognize and respect that position. Good one, Foxy! Albeit, I disagree:

Herein, I posit Ho is problematic. Confirmation of Ho would be confirmation of an extension of Plato's Perfect Forms. Something, I am prepared to approximate. The posts will need to roll-out a bit first.

I have, perhaps, not been precise in my use of the word "null" with my original post, etymologically. My excuse is that in computer programming a null can be a region that is, that represents something that is not.

Null even has a hexidecimal value on some operating systems. O representing lowest value and F highest value. Lowest value meaning less than nothing but not zero, nor a minus. It is a realm of the lowest value. This might be a hard concept for folks, who have not programmed Artificial Intelligence. [or need to re-assign for deletion a an unprintable character unrecognized by the bit-map].

-cont-

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So, yesterday, I did some research. Philosophers/Physicists sometimes use the term Realm of Numbers, when applying Philosphy to Mathematics.

Previously, I have been meaning a Realm of the Remotest Value from other realms, including God and the Universe. All are to be independent constructs to retain the internal consistency of each construct. Can such a realm contain formulae?