Dear Oliver,

I'm a bit confused by the use of your terminology. Especially the term, "null realm."

Because the use of the term "null" in front of
"realm" implies that it's a nonexistent realm.

Therefore your question of - does one and one make two, in a non - existent realm, doesn't make sense.

At least to me.

A "null Realm," would contain no elements, it would be empty, void.
Therefore 1 and 1 would not make 2. In a "null realm," it would amount to zero.

and now dear foxy, you know why Oliver sometimes has a mild sulk :) about me not answering his questions... Oly.. u really are a dag.. such questions..

The concept '2' is a human construct.. developed to cope with quantities of objects.
Its just a name, but to us it means not 1, not 3 but 2.

Interesting... if we apply this reasoning

1+1=2

and Christ lived, Christ died, Christ rose, Christ will return..... where does that take us?

I recall Michael Moor-on saying:

YES.. there hav been many terrorist acts against us.
YES..there will be more terrorist acts against us.
NO... this does NOT mean there is a vast terrorist plot out there!

err.. 1+1=3? :)

In Moore's world it apparently does.

To be honest..I don't know what ur asking.. "Null"? hmmmm

I'll stand back and wait.

LOVE.. :) (I'm learning from Keysar:)

Dear Oliver,

I forgot to answer your question, "Can pi represent the ration of any circle's circumference to its diameter in a null-realm without the existence of God?"

No, of course not.

Who but God could measure the circumference of a non-existent realm? (smile).

Dear Oliver,

You are a very clever man.

I finally got it.

Hello Foxy,

Could one 1 or the other 1 exist to make zero? :-) I posit a true null can't even be put on a number line, whereas zero can. My use or misuse is different.

What I am saying is can a mathemematic concept stand-alone in the absence of God's or the Universe's existence. I called this state a null-realm, to describe the aforementioned hyper-abstraction. The realm that is not God's realm [if God does/does not exist, hypothetically] and the Universe did not exist [hypothetically]. Not the realm of a singuality or phase space, either. A realm perhaps metaphyshical; not physical, not QM and not teological. The raw abstraction, alone.

And in a circular universe full of circular arguements why couldn't the circle reign supreme and be the new 1, leaving of course the diameter as .31830988618379067153776752674503?