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A Culling Bloody Shame

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Senior Principle research scientist, CSIRO, Division of Wildlife and Ecology and Dr Graham Arnold wrote:

"Unless the community manages remnant vegetation to minimise degradation and enhance the regeneration of native plants, kangaroos and some other native species will disappear from much of Western Australia over the next 100 years."

Kangaroos’ tails drag along behind them while they are grazing, pressing the ground, rolling seeds into the earth. Their urine and faeces is a natural fertilizer, essential to the health of the land and biodiversity.

Kim Stewart, BA Philosophy:

"It is suggested that kangaroos will cause land degradation as a result of overpopulation. Come on now, is anyone who knows that this country has 180 million cattle obliterating flora under hoof (about 70% of our land mass) so naïve as to say it is the kangaroo that is responsible for land degradation?"

http://www.omplace.com/articles/Kangaroo_Cull.html

”SA marsupial expert Doug Reilly:

“Where farmers and pastoralists (with sheep, cattle and crops) are in competition with any native animal, the government administrators always favour the land owner. Whatever native animal is involved, that animal is marked for destruction.”

Governments, despite research overseas into benign chemical repellants discouraging animals from entering specific areas, have failed miserably in sustaining the biodiversity of this nation.

However, a consortium of mining companies have instigated research at Curtin University WA where researchers revealed that the urine of dingoes can effectively repel kangaroos from areas of new-growth vegetation.

Do we still have the dingo?

Despite the institutionalised mass genocide of other species in this nation by inhumane means, the feral pig population is the highest in the world, more domestic dogs and cats are seeking refuge in the woods from cruel owners, the feral camel, deer, buffalo, goats and livestock are marked for a cruel fate, through live exports; kangaroo meat and hides exported to 55 countries and the ill-informed ones here, whose rationale is motivated by "greed, glorious greed," attack those with an informed opinion.

Little wonder Australia has the unenviable record of having the worst record of recent mammal extinction of any country in the world.

http://www.omplace.com/articles/Kangaroo_Cull.html
Posted by dickie, Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:45:04 PM
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Dickie how about posting that poem for Nicky? it meant the world to me and its inch's away but it belongs to you.
And give me a break! this thread is not about the shot Joey's! its about 400 to be culled the issue of harvesting roos is not debated here.
Now how many here search each road kill for alive joey? not a pleasant job.
But two great Friends had a wildlife rescue home young wombats bashing the walls down Joey's in socks or pillow slips many bought to the door by me, in my road patrol days.
Do not brand me heartless I love animals but refuse to forget reality.
Foxy the bush paddock is a big place no other way exists we must cull Nicky is right why are we unconcerned about our breakfast sausages?
Roos exist in numbers so much larger than before white man came and we would not be able to live with the millions that would die in drought if we did not cull.
Culling is a method of keeping roos alive.
Gibo long before we invented your God man lived in caves the protein we got from eating animals helped us grow and it keeps us growing now.
Of all the invented Gods your invention is not the Jesus I once followed.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 23 May 2008 6:08:35 AM
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Belly:
Please accept my most sincere apology when I said the it was you that had referred to me as a "pretend farmer" on another Thread!....I made a mistake,...... it was supposed to have been aimed at "Bugsy"!

I am NOT too gracious to accept that I made a simple mistake by using the wrong "pseudonym".....you see when one gets so passionate about an ongoing issue, it is easy to confuse one simple name with another one,....especially when one is on a Dial-up connection and is thus rather limited to speed and performance!

I know that maybe to offer an apology is rather belated, however I realise now that I was just trying too hard to get my point across,... but the other comments that I made in response, I still stick to!
Posted by Cuphandle, Friday, 23 May 2008 8:27:14 AM
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Belly...what evidence is there that man invented God? or that man lived in caves possibly millions of years ago as part of some evolutionary chain?
To me the whole evolution concept is unsubstantiated tripe.
A few bones here and a few bones there... and this huge mountain of no-evidence tripe theory.
The Bible has the true record and this is Confirmed to the christians by The Holy Spirit living within them.
You guys!
I cant help breaking up when you bring those old bones to the surface as being the way it all happened.
Dem bones, dem bones, dem bones:):):)
You need to read the Holy Bible and let God Touch you and bring you to know Jesus as your Saviour.
Posted by Gibo, Friday, 23 May 2008 8:59:58 AM
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I just love numbers, particularly the images they conjure up. Sometimes they fascinate me so much, I have to dig a little deeper.

>>Come on now, is anyone who knows that this country has 180 million cattle obliterating flora under hoof (about 70% of our land mass)<<

So I tried to visualize this, all those moo-cows trampling the countryside underfoot.

70% of our land mass is 5,384,417 square kilometers.

So every moo-cow has 29,913 square meters to work with, that's a patch of land 173 meters square. Or a hundred metres wide by three hundred meters long. If the cow concerned were walking in a straight line, (let's give them a meter to work with, even though their hooves are only a few inches across), that's a 30 kilometer stretch.

But except when they are on their way to milking, they don't do a great deal of walking. It's more like standing around, with possibly a bit of mooching to pass the time of day. So probably no more than 1km a day, really.

When they are in motion, though, they will average about eight hoofprints per metre

That means every thirty days our bovine fauna-exterminator plants eight hoofprints per square meter, potentially damaging between 1,300 and 1,500 cm sq. as they go.

So in total, 1.5% of the land mass receives one hoofprint every month.

Doesn't really meet the "obliterating fauna" test, does it?
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:45:31 AM
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*Come on now, is anyone who knows that this country has 180 million cattle *

Only nobody thinks that, apart from perhaps Dickie, as its more
like 30 million cattle.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 23 May 2008 11:03:44 AM
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