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Five Questions for Theists

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as the post remains i will try to give you my belief
How do you "explain" the existence of God?

E=mc2 =Energy cant be created nor destroyed [according to science],
our 'living sperm [energy] were formed into man using dust made life from the sun [energy] ,the animus of life [your thoughts , electrical activators [ie our unseen energies] reform [combine into the unseen [darkmatter]

that ; being unseen are unknown but still E-energy i chose to call god[in the beginning god [the formless empty darkness was over the surface of the deep]=[the spirit of god hovering over the waters]

that light from the sun's sustain all life [turning dust into life]is a science fact ,god saw the light was good and intime via our life [living] we are 'allowed' to prove it

god is the unseen 'expanse between the waters and the waters'
in revelations we learn gods throne is our heart [love]

You carefully avoid asking what god is , but god is logic [logus] law ,light [itself unseen , till it reflects off and reveals the dust] yet [in revealing the dust],in the loight to be love and life [reason] being evolved into infinatly vairiable life [for gods reason not mans].

i explain the egsistance of god as fact [as witnessed best [reflected in life ,especially in the good's of love and living [specificlly in the good and true we see in our freewill actions in all life ,

freewill is allowing our logic to have free choice , thus is a good [even if our freewill allows us to do evil to prove it] the very fact of evil allows us to resist it [or enjoin in it ,

because god gives us freewill to believe and get on with living [as a beast if so is our want [or as a true enlightened son [servant] of life], each according as we chose [with gods living loving grace]god allows us to believe it or not.

to whom much is given much was to be expected
Posted by one under god, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:57:36 AM
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Usual Suspect.
I havent got all of the answers. If I want to know anything Ive always got to go back to The Word every time.

The Answers in Genesis people put the incest thing quite well when they say that sex between brother and sister for children was permitted to a certain point then God said No, as in NO MORE, because it was breaking down the genetic line and would have produced retarded children.
E.g. many will remember the young banjo player in the film "Deliverance"?
The thought of God Allowing this for a while to get "numbers up", then stopping it, may be hard for some to get around because we are now so used to incest being sin/and a criminal offence.
Its has been sin/offence so long now that the thought of the act has become repugnant to most...so generally we dont do it.

*We can ignore God or not and we can get to know Him through prayer and then He Reveals Himself... which is actually Jesus Christ Who will come to live with us as we confess the sin and receive Him.
Posted by Gibo, Friday, 16 May 2008 12:27:07 PM
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Dear Oliver,

"Why did God allow the PreCambrian extinction?"

As in all creative activity - there's always several "drafts" before the final "masterpiece." That's why "man" (the draft)was created first, and then came "woman", the masterpiece. (smile).

The same with the PreCambrian era - this was a period in earth history before the evolution of hard-bodied and complex organisms. Dominant PreCambrian organisms were soft-bodied, simple, and entirely marine. Diversification of the hard-bodied organisms did not occur until the beginning of the Cambrian era, when the first shelly fauna appeared.

The loss of species can be mitigated by a concurrent creation of new species.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 May 2008 12:34:46 PM
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All,

Question one does not ask about the existence of god, but an explanation for god’s existence. Why and How?

Scientists provide explanations for the “being” of the universe. Cultural-anthropologists explanations for the development of shamanism, priesthoods, churches and religions.

I know religionists have faith… Based on what “explanation” of god?” [not existence]

Ludwig,

Welcome, Interesting point on insects, I did realise they were insensitive to pain. I have read that the longer dinosaurs may have had “neuronets” at the base of their long tails, because it would take one or two seconds for the message to reach its brain, if said tail bitten by a predictor.

Col,

Thanks. What is the connection you are making between free will and the Pre-Cambrian extinction? My point was there was a seemly meaningless path created, if the apex of the creation is humanity. Why create the other path?

one under god,

Hello. I do not see debate between theists and atheists/agnostics on the ontology of the creation, infinite regress or the epistemology/theory of god -if it exists- a mindless topic. Re-read the questions: All are practical, not mystical.

Since Einstein, much more has been learned about the nature of matter and energy. For example, E=mc2 does explain the positron [Dirac]. The “matter/energy cannot be destroyed” issue raised needs a few hundred words to respond to. I will try a reply, when there is more space.

How did god become god? If god can just be god, why not the universe(s)?

Boazy,

Greetings friend. If Jesus was to re-establish the House of David, as the Kingdom of Heaven, James would have had a better claim. To the general onlooker Jesus, was illegitimate and had less dynastic rights. Did Jesus have King David's DNA?

Foxy,

Good post. It addresses the question: Does a god have to practise [draft]? Is a god, god, if it is not omnipotent?

For a long-time period the two paths were parallel. We are derived from the “hard shells”. What little is known about the Pre-Cambrian creatures is from a few fossils in “soft” stone and their harder droppings.
Posted by Oliver, Friday, 16 May 2008 1:36:19 PM
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I am under the same space restriction as you oliver, how did god become god ,cannot-easilly-be-explained-in-500-words

Science cant explain dark matter ,it cant explain why an observed particle changes its orbit when-observed ,electicity is a name-accorded-to-give-a-name-describing-A of a flow of electrons ,

life is a progression [an-Evil-Vile-Veil A-live-eve-volution],it is a science theory that this reality began with a big bang [ok the matter is still in debate [only a few days ago i tried to read 30 reasons that pull down that-BIG-BANG-theory]

But lets go with the old big bang theory for now ,the debate there was one bang or many ,
i favoured many ,an infinaty of logus/logic that expanded this universe into mere nothing [OK-almost-[>.<-nothing]that in endless eons-of-EXPANING_CONtracts ; begin to fall back into itself ,to the size [theoreticlly believed by its theorists of a full stop] that then [again-exploded with a big bang-as the [>.<] changed state and direction]

where god was in all this big-Bang-Theory was before and after ; the logic that made something from nearly nothing[>.<]

god being infinite and eternal-G_D-was before and after theBIgBang [thus theNAMEgod didnt become 'god' till we thought to name the organising eternal force underlying our very being-and-living ,yet the name god only names an unseen reality-in-word because we know nothing can come[or]GO to nothing

[EnergycCantBe-CreatedNorDestroyed]

olly-im not hung up on any belief or any-theory ,life has proven to me There-is-a-GOD , that is my only surity ,Before i realised a greater unseen organising force ,i knew there was no god by scientific-certainty,

believing-the-lies-we-are-all-fed as children ,only in study via practical pigion-and-plant-and chicken/fish-breeding guided by the science greats gregor-mendel, levi-hollander, darwin et-all did i realise my pigeons could never breed its nearest genetic-relitive
[the-extinct-dodo]

Intime-i-saw there was a greater mind behind my science-heroes, in time with-open-eyes searching for The-one-logus-in-the-many-HOLY-texts i found the living/loving creator-god,[that-lived-live-time-then-as-he-lives-live-time-all-through-time
[even-beyond-time]
but-alone-in-this-ever-NOW-live-time-ALL_THE_TIME
[beyond-whatever-we-[now]-decide-to-name-HIM
Posted by one under god, Friday, 16 May 2008 2:15:47 PM
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Here is my first question:

1. Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?
Posted by Steel, Friday, 16 May 2008 2:57:52 PM
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