In every society there are leaders and followers and those that want to be uncommitted and alone.

I note Haralambos has been carefully indoctrinated in the English languade. Why has'nt he developed his own language? Is it because he can engage in an indoctrinated society? When will he discover himself rather than use to tools and disciplines of a computer age? All these things are governed by laws and disciplines. Tell us when you are no longer the indictrinated you but the new you. Or perhaps the new you will develop you own language, laws and disciplines that cannot communicate with the brain washed majority. Ugg homen eld?

Divorce Doctor said "It is a great fortune for governments the people do not think". Too true my friend, sadly too true. To think outside the square is somewhat painful. Giving up the "warm" fuzzies threatens the integrity of the order of things. I think it was Timothy Leary who said we should "tune in and drop out". He was right, because we leave behind our conditioning, and re-create ourselves anew.

Hey Philo,

Is it not possible to "use the master's tools to bring down HIS house"?

Boaz & CJM,

I am hapy to listen to argument from both Theist and Atheists sides. nly, former essentially use two book OT & NT and "human" doctrine from councils. The latter are more inclined to bring a wide of science and history to the debate. While, leaning towards atheist side, I thought Dawkin's "God Delusion" poorly written, Not on the same planet as "The Selfish Gene".

Dawkins was writing out of his feild of expertise. I have thought saw since buying an earlier copy and the respected journal ISIS said the same thing: the ISIS writer was ab atheist.

What I don't see is Boazy and Sells finding faults in the Bible in the way othe disciplines do about their peers. George and Philo seem better read and so fundamentalist. So, there are exceptions.

As mentioned before by me in OLO, feel Dawkins should have edited an anthology using topic experts.

Boaz & Sells,

What are the three biggest faults in the Bible?

"Divorce Doctor said "It is a great fortune for governments the people do not think". Too true my friend, sadly too true. To think outside the square is somewhat painful. Giving up the "warm" fuzzies threatens the integrity of the order of things."

may I put is another way my friend

to think/act outside the square [and WIN] is for sure the greatest joy I have had in my life

the PAIN comes from the swords [above AND below] who feel insecure BY your brave break FROM the fold and set about to make THEIR single agenda item being a pedant to your cause

it is sad but that is the way since the days of Adam

IT'S TOOOO WIERD :)

Speaking of indoctrination... some of you will love this.

I found it both thrilling but also ironic and sad at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOzF9ZGA7A&feature=related

The SHOW...."American IDOL"

The SONG...."Shout to the LORD"

The SPONSOR.."Coca Cola"

I must confess, all the hype, bad theology (idol?) and sponsorship aside, it was heartwarming to see the finalists of 'Idol' sing

"My Jesus, My Savior Lord there is none like you" with great passion.

There was a mild hiccup though, the day before, with the same song, some bright spark took out 'Jesus' and substituted "Shepherd" ..hmm a bit of PC no doubt.

The song was composed by Darlene Zschech from Hillsong Sydney.

I would be full of unspeakable joy if all of us could sing that song from the heart.