Robert: ""The world is a much richer and wonderful place..."

That in turn reminded me of one of my favourite poems. It's not really that apropos, but it does have the world "gay" in it.

Snow
by Louis MacNeice

The room was suddenly rich and the great bay-window was
Spawning snow and pink roses against it
Soundlessly collateral and incompatible:
World is suddener than we fancy it.

World is crazier and more of it than we think,
Incorrigibly plural. I peel and portion
A tangerine and spit the pips and feel
The drunkenness of things being various.

And the fire flames with a bubbling sound for world
Is more spiteful and gay than one supposes -
On the tongue on the eyes on the ears in the palms of one's hands -
There is more than glass between the snow and the huge roses.

Good site Runner.
My detractors always seem to miss the perversion part (would you have sex with farm animal, why a man? Its against the pairing of the species that clearly exists in all Creation) and the fact that as the gay inclined teen starts out, he is doing what his conscience says NO to.
Detractors also go for the Christian churches and the fact that we support Gods Stance in the gay issue and what His Word says (and christians better if they want to stay with Him).
We have a liberal age and many prominent church leaders supporting the gay movement under the "love others " heading and yet they put aside the fact that God says its sin.
I mean He sets the laws. And theyre not so hard to conform to.

The only problem is, Gibo, that "He" is a figment of your imagination and those of other Christians. Read this carefully:

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours", Stephen Roberts

Oh, it's a great site, runner: religious conservative extremism that looks like a side-project for the people who run those conspiracy SITES where every third WORD is in CAPITALS because you HAVE to know ABOUT the coming ALIEN invasion.

Is it aliens invading, Gibo? Is that what your collected prophesies say? Or is it a flotilla of muslim lesbian abortionists armed with Richard Dawkins books?

"... Or is it a flotilla of muslim lesbian abortionists armed with Richard Dawkins books?"

And with their boosums on clear display?

Gibo, given that you've accused others of being proud and arrogant on another thread, and weak here, may I ask why you cite reports but refuse to believe in the reports others cite? Why you believe your life experiences should shape government and media policy, no less, but the life experience of others should be ignored.

Wouldn't God being disappointed that you are being so proud and arrogant?

I might cite reports Vanilla but I never get too close to them.
If a major newspaper runs an article and there is no backlash regarding the truth then it would seem that what they wrote was accurate to a degree.
I dont trust too many writings, articles etc enough to go indepth. To me, and many other christians, its primarily a deception age when noted researchers, professors, lecturers will do almost anything for fame.
They will tweek it here or tweek it there to get the result that uplifts their name. Stats are never really reliable. You got to remember that Im indoctrinated to read or hear the Holy Bible. This is my christian walk. Outside of that I see things as sus. In this respect trusting little other than Gods Word, which is Confirmed as truth to me by The Holy Spirit who lives within, I dont let much pollute what God gave me. Sorry if that seems narrow. But it sure is Comfortable. Who would you buy a used car from these days, or an article that you could really say was true? All Mr. Dawkings stuff appears to be from idle hours of trapped as he is and the bitterness of a life lived with infirmity. God bless him to get saved. Dont trust too many references. Whats in The Word is whats going to happen. There wont be no great, golden, high tech, anti-grav, intellectuals computer age that saves mankind. The Book of Revelation is whats going to happen.