Dear critics. Just remember what I said.

"...but are there times when that freedom goes against the betters needs of society?"
and "I dont hate the gays by-the-way..."
The power of the free speech that the gay community has built up (while many people werent looking) really needs to be cut off! Chop! We do it because we love the children.
Its not a complex thing and it doesnt effect all that much and it does protect a new generation from the gay "sexual immorality" propaganda. The Bible says NO, so for the spiritual and physical health of society, it has to be NO. Our loving God still hates the sin of it. Not the sinner.
Remember that the gays are an infection spreading sector of society.
Its up to the editors to do what is right and wise.

What is so ironic is that it is not the homosexuals who are being vilified but anyone who objects to their behaviour from being promoted as a healthy lifestyle. Far more hate is expressed to the bible believing Christians than any other group on this forum and in many others. Those who are accused of the most bigotry are actually the receivers of it by those who claim to champion 'tolerance'. I am sure they would rather tolerate paedophiles having a say rather than Christians just so they can convince themselves of their sick philosophies.

Thanks to those who particpated in this thread.
Sadly the truth is recognised by only a few . I for one wont allow the gay movement to dominate society, now that they are loose, lest it become a dark world for children. One needs to speak.
Forty years ago none of us knew a single homosexual. Not one of us at school.
Now they are much of what we hear.
"Got to have our gay rights, got to have this, got to get into the schools and get the boys with us, got to have that, got to have our mardi gras, got to displace some of the straights to get our voice heard more and more". Theyve taken over most of the public toilets even inside major department stores.
No wonder the Christians call it a dying world.

"I for one wont allow fundamentalist religious crackpots to dominate society, now that they are loose, lest it become a dark world for children and adults. One needs to speak."

That about sums it up.

R0bert

runner you are the one with nothing to lose. You see, you already have the freedom to get married, with the legal recognition. This is not the case for gay people, because of people like you and Gibo.

For you to cry persecution because people don't agree with your righteous belief that you have authority over gay people, is laughable in this context. I find it offensive that you believe you have the jurisdiction over your fellow citizens to determine their lives. It used to be "wrong" for a white and black person to marry. People found that "sick". It used to be illegal for gay people to have sex. No longer illegal. It used to be illegal to file for divorce, and the religious thought it would destroy society. Your opposition to gay people is fine as long as you mind your own god-damned business. But you won't will you? Like Gibo you think it's your right to assert your values, whether they be discrimnatory or not, on the lives and bodies of others.

Gibo " The Bible says NO, so for the spiritual and physical health of society, it has to be NO. Our loving God still hates the sin of it. Not the sinner"

No one on the planet save a few isolated monks or nuns lives according to the bible. If you read the bible you will find gross inconsistency in the actions of christians and the texts.

Australia is not a theocracy, though no doubt Christians want it to become one or a de-facto theocracy. We certainly show some traits. Your religious domain ends expressly outside your own personal boundaries and religion, you have no authority over anyone who doesn't have the same belief as you. To quote the bible and believe they are sinful takes some nerve.

I'll leave this quote:

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours", Stephen Roberts

If you have any doubts about the role of religion behind the scenes in Australia and the theocratic movement, or are living somewhat complacent, take the Pope's words himself. Catholics place loyalty to the Pope first, ahead of Australia and it's citzienry and there are a lot of catholics in Australia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/us/nationalspecial2/17pope.html

"Pope Praises U.S., but Warns of Secular Challenges
...
But he later warned, in a speech to American bishops, of the “subtle influence of secularism” that can co-opt religious people and lead even Catholics to accept abortion, divorce and co-habitation outside of marriage."

While he rightfully is calling out religious people's hypocrisy, he isn't arguing for more private responsibility, he is arguing for political influence based on his religious beliefs:

"“Any tendency to treat religion as a private matter must be resisted,” he said. "