No fact-based evidence, only opinions, individual? You have to be the worst debater I have ever seen on this forum.

The second post provided a link and a reprint of a Dept. of Immigration statement, it has been repeated in several posts to this forum also:
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/media-releases/2007/d07033.htm

Vanilla provided a Snopes link detailing the history of the viral email: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/refugees.asp

I provided a Media Watch report on the email also, that details the publication of it in several Australian newspapers:
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2191987.htm

Only opinion based? You asked for fact-based evidence but no one usually replies? No wonder, you don't bother reading anything.

Some people think that once you resort to calling someone names you've lost an argument. I disagree, in this case you are clearly a [deleted by moderator].

Apologies to Robby - I forgot you'd already posted that information above. However, I don't suppose it hurts to reiterate the clear refutation by the Australian government of this hate-spam, since a couple of people clearly don't get it.

This is simply hilarious.

Individual, until refugees' claims are decided, they get no Centrelink benefits at all. If they are found to be genuine refugees (an extremely difficult process) they go on temporary visas. They then have limited access to Centrelink benefits — they can apply for Centrelink Special Benefits on the same basis and rates as other Australian residents. Not all do, of course — most get jobs. In the first four weeks they are here, under Australia’s Integrated Humanitarian Settlement Strategy, some refugees get help with basic goods to start a household and subsidies for rent and utilities. They do not get cash.

When they become permanent residents, they have they same access to Centrelink payments as you or I. If they are unemployed they can go on Newstart allowance. Everyone on Newstart gets $424.38 per fortnight. A person on an Aged Pension Payment receives $525.10 per fortnight.

However, despite all that, one thing is certain — man never walked on the moon. Seriously. They set it all up in the desert in Nevada. Did you see that wind? There's not wind on the moon.

Romany, the idea of reading your beautiful prose in more than 350 word blocks is very exciting. Please let me know about article and blog. If you have any anonymity worries, you can email me at vanillasometimes@yahoo.com

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/media-releases/2007/d07033.
Hmm ? I can't see where it says how much is actually being paid.
Dept. official statements? well, they must be true eh ? like there's a flawless justice system, a flawless health system, a flawless etc. etc. We don't have pensioners living in poverty & all other discrimination etc.? Hey, I mean Govt. always tells us how good things are ?
It's all just vivid imagination. What are we all on about if all we need is a departmental refute.
I must admit I do not have first hand knowledge of how much refugees receive in monetary benefits but I have first hand experience on what is provided to people who choose to depend on others.
I don't know how many of you are of academic background & therefore would not know what working physically for a living entails but, I can assure you that people who make a living through physical exertion want to see their tax Dollar spent in a morally more appropriate manner than has been the way over recent years.

Individual,

As I pointed out above, refugees don't get a special allowance. Once they formalise the rigorous and convuluted process that is becoming a permanent resident, they can get Newstart. See here for the rates: http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/payments/pay_how_nsa.htm

The aged pension rates are here: http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/payments/pay_how_agepens.htm

As you can see, the latter is higher than the former.

Can you at least explain what bit you don't understand?

You know, I've always wondered how scams like this work. Obviously, it takes two to three minutes to find out this is bogus. Yet you so want it to be true that you seem to be unable to use your brain.

There really is a sucker born every minute.

PS. I have got this great bridge you should buy. Check it out here: http://www.photosbyjay.com.au/images/tips/leica-m8-harbour-bridge.jpg

Seriously. For you, cheap as. Let me know if you're interested.

PPS. Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? Look it up.

Morgan said
Google will return links to many websites with information that refutes both your credulous bigotry and that of PALE&IF and the cretinous Anng.

pale replies

Morgan show me where I said I agreed with the letter?

What I said was- and I made it VERY clear again since a few posts up to Tony was- we are trying and fighting to get migrant workers IN the country!

So the bigotry is yours - and straight out lies. I cant stand people and they know who they are that cant debate without carrying a school girl grudge just because they make dorks out of themselves or were proven to be incorrect on other thread.

So for anybody really interested in getting skilled workers into Australia here is our link

http://www.halakindmeats.com/

What I CAN say is that all skiiled workers for abattoirs and plant owners have had political interfearance and conditions put upon them "that no other industry has"?.

I can ALSO say personally I am VERY MUCH opposed to the immediate centerlink payments- promised to uni students BEFORE they enter Australia to do IT etc etc.

These kids are from wealthy familes YET they are SHOWN how to fill out center link payment slps 'before coming.'

Yes I am STRONGLY opposed to that! My word I am . Keep the funding for those who need it- and allow the WORKING migrants to enter and work

Perhaps you are also unaware that John Laws PROVED that migrants get medication for free that Australians are forced to pay for.

Perhaps you didnt know the main funding for Citz right comes from Saudi.
That works well if you happen to be from another country but God help you if you were to be a Australian born woman or man catching a council bus to your little job that only you cared about.

I have told you before that we actually are the only Aussies to work daily and hold a MOU with Islamic Leaders of this country.

I cant see how that makes us bigotry against migrants