StG: "That's defamation Gibo. I recommended it for deletion. You SHOULD be banned for it."

While I'm not into censorhip per se, it does appear that there's a bit of a lack of consistency with respect to moderation in this forum lately. The moderator has recently displayed a very delicate sensibility to various posts on certain topics, but apparently allows this kind of Christian wowser abuse of others a free reign.

I'm at a loss as to why a generally credible forum like OLO has approved so many rubbish articles and general posts of late.

Gibo: "If you are pro-porn StG, Bugsy, TRTL, the rest of you weaklings, you are as bad as a pedophile.
In truth there is no differnce between you and the child molester."

I've made the point repeatedly Gibo - pro porn and anti censorship are completely different issues.

You won't listen. And you have the hide to call people cowards.

Foxy, I hear what you're saying, but Gibo now has officially lost any modicum of decency and I'll not back off in the slightest until he acknowledges how offensive and utterly inappropriate his comments have become.

Nevertheless, even if I was pro porn, that wouldn't equate to pedophilia. Col Rouge has highlighted that situation in an apt manner.

Gibo's comments were just loopy when he was on about flying saucers and prophecies.

When he discarded the evidence put in front of him, and continued to put forward his insane theories, that was all well and good. I suppose some people find ignoring comments and facts necessary.

But now he is using that same ignorance to pretend that those opposed to censorship are doing it for evil reasons.

He won't even accept the other side has a point. He simply can't see the arguments against censorship - when he takes that disrespect of other views, bundles it up with words like 'coward,' accuses people of being pedophiles... simply because people like myself believe censorship is not a tool to be trusted to government, well, he has lost any right to respect.

I'll not recommend his comment for deletion, and I'd hope the others he accused of being pedophiles don't either.
As long as this thread stands, a link can be provided to this thread. Thus, when Gibo makes similarly nasty comment elsewhere, the link can be provided, and decent people can come here, and view his nastiness for themselves, and make up their own minds.

See, that's the beauty of things when censorship isn't present - we're free to view it, and decide for ourselves.

TLTR "I'll not recommend his comment for deletion, . . . See, that's the beauty of things when censorship isn't present - we're free to view it, and decide for ourselves."

Exactly TLTR!

I totally and unreservedly agree with you.

On some boards where my identity can be more embellished than here I state the following as a "signature"

"Freedom of Speech distinguishes between the Sage and the Fool based on the merit of their words.
Censorship treats their words the same."

Let Gibo's words stand as testament to that enduring truth.

The Sage will always support anti-censorship.

It is only the Fool who benefits.

Oh well...the lord of the site has spoken and my comment got deleted.
Alas, my heart is still the same. I guess I just have to watch my expressions.
At least you know now how some view the pro-porner and the pro-free speecher who supports the porn.
My life decision is that many so-called real men who stand on boxes all over this great land and waffle on about how dark is good and right is wrong are not strong enough morally to fight in a good army against dark powers. Eh? Boys.

Everyone....take a deeeep breath.... grab a nice juicy Eucalyptus leaf and crush it and soak up the beautiful scent.....

Ok..now we are ready.

The BEST form of censorship is the voluntary kind. When the rivival exploded in Whales in 1905 pubs went out of business because the 'drunkards' got their lives right with God and stopped buying grog.

BUGSY.. the connection between porn and unhealthy attitudes to women, is in the area of 're-inforcement'. Sure, men might develop those attitudes from family and friends etc..but then, porn simply confirms and reinforces this.

Makeing porn illegal might not stop or eliminate it, but it WILL send a clear moral message to the community which puts such debasing and disgusting material in the correct place 'the RUBBUSH' bin.

Remember... our laws are mean't to be a reflection of OUR desires..so to make it illegal is quite legitimate if we can get the democractic numbers, and I sure have been trying :)

I am at a complete loss as to why ANOTHER porn discussion has been approved.

I had no intention of adding to it, however, TRTL made an interesting point: "...... Gibo. I fear your kind - the kind that thinks it has the right to mould people how they want - far more than any pornographer."

People who use scare tactics to enforce their point of view are always to be regarded at best, with the height of scepticism and at worst, dangerous. So I guess I'd have to say that I'd prefer to choose the pornographer over the Gibos. But that's kind of like choosing a KFC over Fairy floss - neither make a particularly healthy diet, but pure sugar is likely to kill you sooner.

I have been pilloried on Gibo's other porn thread for trying to put the emphasis on a healthy approach to sexuality, starting with education of our children - somehow this had been interpreted that I wish to ban porn, no I don't - I'd just like to see really good porn as opposed to the McPorn than treats women, girls and boys as sexual receptacles. What is so wrong about wanting to work towards a happier healthier world? Why should I have to accept the current dismal state of our sexual attitudes as that's how it is, accept it?

We have managed to make many advances towards a more humane approach with regard to schooling, equality of opportunity, racism - compared to 100 years ago we have made fantastic progress. But we still have a very male dominated view of what constitutes sexuality. Well there are other equally valid POV's be they from hetero women or gays or lesbians.

What I find particularly upsetting is the prevailing attitude that as long as it doesn't involve children, then it doesn't matter. Well, it does matter, it must matter if parents would not actively encourage their children to work as prostitutes or porn actors. Doesn't anyone see the paradox here?

Apparently on OLO if you're not with something, then you must be agin' it. Sheeesh!