Gibo,
I usually do not bother to read what you post, but seeing the number of posts here I decided to see what the attraction was.

I am in agreement with most posters here, which is opposite to you, runner and Boaz. One area of concern to me is the availability of porn to children because children try to emulate adults. In some of the porn I have seen the actions and poses are not normal, in my view, and I would not like to think that children deemed them to be normal.

What is interesting in this debate is that you state that you don't believe in stats and you don't need evidence to form your opinion. Well then why do you ask government to carry out a study on porn if you won't accept their findings unless it coincides with your pre-determined opinion. It seems to me that you haven,t read any of the many links provided by Col Rouge, TRTL and others, which indicates you have a completly closed mind.

In these circumstances why bother to ask for a study?

Fractelle, one of the reasons people who've had involvement would be the naked prejudice shown by many against porn. People do a lot of things which it's safer to keep quiet about because extremists are likely to discriminate against them if they become aware of it.

I get the point which you and Pelican are making and it is valid to a point but that's sufficient reason to try and ban consenting adults from taking part.

R0bert

A question to those who defend porn (I AM ambivalent about banning it).

Are you saying that pornography has NO influence on the abuse/rape of women?
Posted by Ginx, Friday, 4 April 2008 4:20:09 PM

.............any takers?

R0bert

At no point have I suggested banning porn - on this or any other thread. While it is hardly the highest level of human expression, porn does have a place in the human spectrum of sexuality.

It is interesting that you choose to claim I wrote something that I didn't, and then to avoid the issues I raised.

Such as extreme porn degrading people - mostly women. And why, if the sex industry is so acceptable, is not work in it regarded as a viable career path and on the syllabus at schools? Just think little Suzy could study blow-jobs 101 - mum and dad would be so proud.

You attach more importance to smacking as a cause of sexual dysfunction than you do pornographic images. Where is your evidence of this? Or are you simply justifying the type of porn you like to watch? As I suspect those who persistently claim that porn is completely harmless, the ones who single out paedophilia as blame worthy but anything else, apparently, is fine - as long as the adults are consenting of course. How we can be sure of that? I really don't know.

Banning porn seems to work for Islamic countries like Iran:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/8555dd50ea4dfc4df314e67aee126a22.htm

Doesn't it?
http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/stoningetc/rapeiran.htm

Although that last link was from 2000, porn has always been banned in Iran.

Yes, Gibo et al., we should all follow Iran's example. After all, it won't make any difference.

BOAZ you seem to find something contentious in my view of theology.

I find something contentious in your condemnation of pornography.

I, as a mature and tolerant adult am perfectly happy to allow you to pursue you religious devotions and turn my back on what I consider an indulgent exercise in self-righteousness and pointlessness.

I some how think you lack the maturity and tolerance to respect those who enjoy pornography and consider they indulge themselves in what some might consider a pointless, self indulgent pursuit.

It seems hypocritical of you, that what someone like you considers a detrimental personal choice should have any greater authority to what I consider a detrimental personal choice, especially when I can provide objective research which contradicts your assertion and evidentiary news reports of the predatory habits of priests, which supports my assertion.

Gibo, your mate with the withered arm. Remembering back a mate of my youth, was pillion on a motor bike, crashed into an oncoming car, motor cycle driver lost his entire right leg, my mate lost his right leg below the knee, his right arm he lost nerves to and decided to have it cut off rather than leave it there to wither.
Fortunately they had crash helmets on, my mates helmet cracked and he had deep scars on his forhead, otherwise he would be dead. Which would have been a tragic loss because he was doing a PhD in something when I knew him.

Maybe we should ban motorcycles.

Regarding children accessing pornography, I have commented on this already.

Anyone supplying a child with PC should only do so with a machine which has full firewall and virus protection, or risk the PC collapsing under the weight of invasive Trojan viruses. The system I use is “VET” look it up with google. It comes with a comprehensive censorship system to curtail adult sites and chat rooms etc.

The pro-censorship lobby have failed to produce objective data to support their claim of the detrimental effects of pornography. The anti-censorship lobby have produced objective data to support their view.

Anti-censorship WINS!