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Should Holocaust studies be compulsory at school?
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Posted by Bugsy, Sunday, 30 March 2008 9:11:09 PM
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Danielle, it appears that when you don't get your way with mr, you automatically label me a 'supremist' or supremacist. The Chinese believe theirselves to be superior - how do you feel about Chinese Supremacists? Ditto the Japanese. How about the Black Panthers with their Black Power salute? How do you feel about them? Or will you refuse to answer an put this in the 'too hard' basket with Canada? You wrote 'There is no need to continue.' - what, no more of your mud-slinging (oops, I meant reasoned debate)?
Foxy, I've thought deeply. How can my beliefs or non-beliefs be harming any of you? So denial is mockery, is it? Well, Steven's religion denies that your Jesus Christ was the son of God. Therefore he is mocking your saviour by your logic. Not confused Bugsy/Brian, keep trying. I persisted with the Dr Piper link as those I quoted it to chose to ignore it while continuing to attack my beliefs. You went on about the link 'This you purport to say quotes Dr. Franciszek Piper'. Are you saying it doesn't? As for me not finding decent material, I'm not the one who admitted to using 'other independent sources' that 'have never been published' - or are you just confused? Anyway, why can't a blog give quotes and sources? Isn't it the material being quoted that is of importance, not whoever is quoting it? You wrote,'Since you seemed so insistent on Dr. Piper's statements, I decided to look up the video that purports to have these statements by him'. Who stated that he said that on video? Not me - I think you're confused again. I had referred to the Rense link where he was quoted, in writing, not on video. Strangely, if he has never said what he was reported to have, he has never refuted it or taken any action. What does that tell you? Incidentally, David Cole, the revisionist (denier) that you refer to is Jewish. Is he aknuckledragger or is he brave enough to speak out against mainstream belief? Posted by Jack the Lad, Monday, 31 March 2008 1:39:47 PM
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Brian
I note you had no comment on the downsizing of deaths from 4.1 million to 1.1 million. Confusing? For someone who makes accusations of lying and not coming forth with 'proper' evidence, you suretake the biscuit. But what else can I expect from 'the prisoners' friend'? Posted by Jack the Lad, Monday, 31 March 2008 1:41:09 PM
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In case you hadn't noticed, your blog links that supposedly quote Dr. Piper, are erroneous. The statements they reportedly quote from Dr. Piper do not exist. I would not expect Dr. Piper to respond to these statements directly, many serious researchers don't because they don't want to lend legitimacy to what is essentially a bunch of nutjobs with a serious political agenda and no interest in real history.
The fact that David Cole issued a retraction in 1998 doesn't impress you either, I'm sure. Just another conspiracy theory to add to the list. Your deliberate ignorance of the original material is just what I would expect from you. Also, your unwillingness to own the statements you have made when quoting from non-original sources that have taken liberties with what was said on that video comes as no surprise either. Standard practice, when caught out deny everything. That you keep calling me Brian, I thought was amusing (I still do). I also find it indicative of how your brain works. I guess because I did not immediately deny the name, it has now become fixed in your mind that is what it is in reality. Wrong again, but that if that's what your 'life education' has taught you how to approach reality, then it's hardly surprising either. You fail. At everything. Posted by Bugsy, Monday, 31 March 2008 2:01:24 PM
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Bugsy/Brian, you are a waste of my time. You write of my links as erroneous yet you refer to the Anne Frank Organisation (could be a wee bit biased don’t you think?) and your classic 'other independent sources' that 'have never been published' – har de har har. You can't face up to that. How does that compare with your accusation of my ‘unwillingness to own the statements’ I ‘have made when quoting from non-original sources’. People in glass houses etc.
As for ‘deliberate ignorance’, you are guilty of that. When I pointed out that you were wrong when you stated that I had referred to a video of Dr Piper but, instead, a written report to which I provided a link, you changed to another part of the argument. Oh no, you can’t face it when you’re caught out. Many times I have replied to one of your accusations and you never once had the balls to reply on the same subject. While you wrote of the revised ‘ death figures for Auschwitz-Birkenau as 1.1 million. That is no small number’, when I pointed out that this was revised down from 4.1 million, you again stuck your head in the sand. You wrote that I ‘have totally lied about 'reading forensic reports' I actually wrote ‘I have also read that forensic analysis showed that Anne Frank's diaries were partially written in biro. Read that there were reports – didn’t actually read them, thicko. See http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1602#31092 before you make any more stupid comments. I could go on in a similar vein, but I think it’s like talking to a brick wall. What a silly little jibe ‘You fail. At everything’. Were you the kid that took his ball and went home if the other kids didn’t let him win? Maybe if you’d had a ‘life education’ you would be more aware of how childish you can be. That includes your wanky little acronyms. Posted by Jack the Lad, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 6:15:18 PM
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B/B
Anyway, unless you come up with something worthwhile in a sensible manner, I will just ignore your pap on this thread. I really have better things to do with my time. What you fail to understand is that I haven’t seen convincing proof – if I did, I would have changed my beliefs. On the contrary, no matter what proof against your beliefs you saw, I don’t think you would have the sense to think it over again. So, in anticipation of your reply, I’m sure that I will be ignoring you. Ta ta, Brian. Posted by Jack the Lad, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 6:15:53 PM
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Unless of course all your confusion is because you're playing that stupid Devil's Advocate game again:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1343#24746
(that was really lame BTW).
As for Leuchter's report, I find it in adequate (no surprise to you I am sure).
Documents from the Waffen SS in camp archives contradict Leuchter's report directly, and he said (in court) he was unaware of them when he wrote the report, probably because he never went into the archives.
These SS documents are what is considered "corroborating evidence" and tell the real story.
As for his qualifications for writing an engineering report which also relies heavily on toxicology, biology or chemistry?
He had a BA in History.
I wait in eager anticipation any 'forensic reports' on the biro written sections of Anne Franks diary.