When the females of a divorce stop trying to use the family court to punish their ex-husbands, stop trying to secure their own fincancial benefit and the family court respects each parent ...

correct, but it's the lawyers and not the court

as court says 95% of cases are House & Garden ie "never get out of solicitors office"

Robert

I have read a lot of your posts over the years. Mainly pout of interest to the attention and knowledge you have tried to share.

The only real reason I came into this thread was I was thinking of our friend John.

Perhaps we should all say something to him because saving three houses isnt worth making the kids lives miserable.

Its just like before the slit anyway with the daily arguments.

Anyway I am a bit out of my comfort zone and happily admitt to that.
I had a dream once when I was little that children turn out as Morgans So I decided not for me;)( Actually it was a nightmere.

Anti Women.
Of course I do not know your circumstances and my post was in general

They say kids grow up like their parents.

I honestly hope not for your childrens sake.

You rude and quite unnessarily so. I would suggest my IQ might be considerably more so than yours.

I wasnt interested in your life Anti. However now you have dragged it into the forum why on earth would your x wife and mother of your children have to seek asingle mothers pension.

Thats awful.. In other countries like Germany that would never happen. Perhaps the Australian Government need to follow their leadership.
How horrible for your two girls to know Mummy had to seek welfare to raise them after Dad was not around.

Sad Very Sad. Your very lucky they even speak to you IMOP

Clearly they must take after their Mum if they are nice girls because your example of how to treat your fellow man or woman leaves a great deal to be desired.

PALE: "why on earth would your x wife and mother of your children have to seek asingle mothers pension."

Because she chose to. She was working before she made the deision to leave me. You would have heard of work, no doubt? You know, it's what everyone else does during the day.

"How horrible for your two girls to know Mummy had to seek welfare to raise them after Dad was not around."

She didn't have to, she chose to and I agree that it is horrible for my children to know their mother was too lazy to work to support them. What do you suggest I should have done about that? Other than "just pay up".

"Your very lucky they even speak to you IMOP"

Which shows what your opinion is worth, doesn't it? Don't let your ignorance of the facts slow you down. Ignoramus

Anti everything, especially x wives.

Sunshine I have worked all my life. Very long hours farming, security companies investigations restaurants… because I chose too.
Wow, she was working before she left. What a wonderful woman.

Raising two girls plus holding down a full time job.

The children certainly have seen a good example in life of how to achieve your goals.


I honestly did not know that men could expect a wife to raise young children plus work full time.

No wonder why she left and of course you should have paid and been very happy too.! IMOP

In Germany e.g. Men still pay for x wives and children regardless- Even if there is no children.

X wives hold a greater respect in other countries more so it would seem than here. If they don’t pay the end up in goal. Or go into working houses to work off the back maintained.

Anyway as you chose to again attack me for no reason I just wanted to say once again how really unpleasant you are.

I don’t care about your family Anti awful.
I know that might sound selfish but at least I am honest.
Go away your a bore.

I only really came in here to ask Roberts advise if he doesn’t mind.

Robert Do you think friends should say something when they see the kids upset by their Mum or Dads master plan if its upsetting the kids. Or keep quite?

The little one was crying when we took him out horse riding he which s normally loves.’
I asked him what was wrong and he said= Because Mum and Dad fight more now than even before and he goes to school upset everyday and it makes him sick in the tummy.

He also said Dads a lousey cook:) kids

so we are now at the holy grail point of 50/50 the fact that total strangers are talking to hypothetical issues

yes the whole of Howard/Ruddock plan was to boost the $20 Billion FLIndustry, even a Billion from taxpayer to fund new Family Relationship Centres, simply by causing agro with a "no change" amendment to FLAct

Trouble is I was so correct, 2 weeks before election Howard "arranged" to Pirate my EBook ablokesguide.com, so he is about to get an applic under Copyrigh Act - stay tuned

PALEIF “How horrible for your two girls to know Mummy had to seek welfare to raise them after Dad was not around.”

Antiseptic is correct and you are wrong

I would also agree with him on the matter of you talking from the hip, whilst my personal experiences are ancedotal, they are at least first party and my suggestions framed to be fair, what I beleive is equitable to all and from experience what were in the best interests of my children.

My ex suggested she would go on the single parent pension at one stage. That despite being healthy and having a job which she did not like and maintenance payments from me.

Me paying maintenance makes no difference to her right to pull a pension

I told her I thought such an idea was stupid since she would be building herself a poverty trap and make her employment potential even less than it may otherwise have been if she were to at least maintain the impression of having a work ethic.

As a foot note to all this, my younger daughter phoned earlier today and said her mother was having a BBQ, she has a bunch of UK relatives in Aus at the moment. My daughter said I was welcome and invited. So tomorrow I will be catching up with the outlaws.

Strange, maybe not typical but after 15 years of separation the rage has abated, in part.

My daughters don’t have to worry about flying kitchen utensils when me and their mother meet.

I think back. Anyone anticipating separation just remember one thing

You presumably loved the other parent of your children once. Trying to destroy them now makes a mockery of how you once felt.