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Political Correctness: For The Use Of.

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back again - couldn't resist the Foxy joke

Jesus said to them, those famous words, "You who is without sin, throw the first stone."

The best read I have had of real POWER PC, ie not by legislation but by that big wet tram ticket that you can't "appeal" against is the Helen Garner book "The First Stone", which I would recommend to all that want to get to the real harm of PC.

Basically it is about an original true feminist Garner finding out and reporting on [and getting abused by] the new breed of "dash for the cash" feminism, with a side dressing of wet tram tickets via the Master totally cleared his name in our respected courts [as Garner says, Howard simply got rid of the court that found for the bloke in the famous "Hairy Legged Lesbian" case] but PC determined that he lost his job and of course became a Geff Kennet Beyond Blue candidate to boot
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Sunday, 24 February 2008 8:14:52 AM
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Palimpsest phrased it pretty well I think. PC is generally a word for the views that the majority have accepted on certain topics.

boaz, you say that those with 'politically incorrect' views on certain things feel marginalised and that's not fair.

Well, frankly, that could be said of things like racism and slavery. It became 'PC' to denounce such things. Would you stand for the old social orthodoxy of enslavement?

It's exactly the same for gay rights. There's no rational reason outside of god bothering or prudishness to stop it.
There's plenty of threads where this has been discussed so I won't go into it, but I'm quite confident, that those opposed to this now, will one day be viewed in the same light as those who vigorously defended racial segregation.

That may fill you with horror boaz. But then again, I'm sure the segregationists felt exactly the same way. They probably even had bible passages they'd interpreted in a manner that supported them.

I'm sure the segregationists also felt as though there was some evil 'PC' onslaught that was thwarting their god given right to be racists.

Well, tough. They had to stew in their own hatred as the rest of the world came to realise what was right. I've no sympathy for them at all. Just like I've no sympathy for many of the very ugly views I've heard in some forums here.

I won't stop people spouting these views, but I'll damn well castigate them for it when they do.
If that makes me 'PC' well, tough. Suck it. Cry 'PC oppression' all you want. Your 'social orthodoxy' is on the way out, and not a moment too soon.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 24 February 2008 9:42:34 AM
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Good Morning Everyone,

I'm back with another "Politically Incorrect" joke. (This is the last one - I promise).

I refer to them as "Politically Incorrect" because it's considered by some as bad taste to make fun of religion. Despite the fact that it's been done for years as Palimphest pointed out. Anyway here goes:

Paddy goes to confession and says to the priest:
"Bless me Father for I have sinned. It's been three weeks since my last Confession and during that time I've committed adultery."
The priest leans closer to the window in the confessional and whispers to Paddy, "Paddy was it with Meg O"Hara that you committed adultery?"
"Father, I can't tell you that," replies Paddy.
The priest sits still for a while, then again asks,
"Was it with Rosie O'Connel that you committed adultery?"
"Father, you know I'm not going to tell you," says Paddy.
Finally, the priest bursts out with,
"Paddy, was it with Brigit O'Connor?"
"Father, why are you asking me these things. I really can't tell you who it was with," says Paddy.
"Allright Paddy," the priest sighs. "Say six Hail Marys and promise never to do it again."
And with that over, Paddy's walking back from the Church when he meets his old friend Seamus.
"Paddy, is it from Church that you're coming?" asks Seamus.
"Yes it is," replies Paddy. "I've just been to Confession."
"How'd you go?" asks Seamus.
"Oh, not bad at all Seamus," replies Paddy.
"I got six Hail Marys - and three good leads!"

(smile).
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 February 2008 9:55:06 AM
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The old vatican bishop was instructed to descend to the vatican archives to check the state of the documents on which the papal edicts were written.

When he didn't return another bishop was sent to find him.

He discovered the old Bishop holding his head, weeping and wailing profusely and muttering:

"We got it wrong.....it says celebrate,....celebrate,......you hear? C.e.l.e.b.r.a.t.e....&**&%**%!!"
Posted by dickie, Sunday, 24 February 2008 12:54:34 PM
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Political Correctness came in with Whitlam's government and was used to oppress any dissent. Today it is still used by people , I call them the "Marilyns" who use the terms 'bigot and racist' in their abuse and reviling of any who are not of their left wing leaning.
For some reason the same people cannot see that the abuse they heap on others is symptomanic of their own mental instability.
Perhaps it would be preferable for them to practice what they preach.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 24 February 2008 2:02:26 PM
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Passive. I’m sorry you’re bruised. Why Taryn is so upset with you eludes me. But as for me, TRTL, CJ etc, our criticisms are part of the rough and tumble of what you want — non-PC culture. Robust debate.

I still find your story incredible — an out-of-court settlement? Sorry, I just can’t see how a school principal sacked for banning Christmas could have eluded the fourth estate. It simply doesn’t ring true. And to compare the Australian media to the KGB is wrong. The KGB *murdered* people — a lot of people, including some of the Western journalists you find so oppressive.

To be honest I’m not sure where you’re going with the vanilla thing. Are you saying that that’s something our mythical PC beast might object to?

Dickie. I fully agree that one shouldn't cry “racist” without proof. I don’t know about your example though. It seems to me that you were choosing to be sensitive rather than PC. They’re not the same thing — real political correctness is so inane that it’s insensitive. It’s a nice story.

Foxy. Excellent example in NYC. However, I note sanity prevailed. Again, reports of PC’s supremacy appear overestimated. Your library example sounds more like a Christian or conservative push. In fact, children’s books that deal with difficult subjects are usually labeled “politically correct” by those who object to them. Why did the councillor find them offensive? Either way I note the push failed.

Divorce Doctor wins the prize. The Ormond College case fits the criteria perfectly.

One case. Fifteen years old.

This topic is important — the overuse and misuse of the term “politically correct” serves no one. So many of you believe political correctness oppresses dissent, yet few want to really scrutinise their own beliefs. Many posters here are in hearty agreement, yet no one appears to care that real examples are so rarely cited.

It’s funny. Ironic. You believe in a make-believe monster is oppressing you, and yet think you have a monopoly on truth. Where is the honesty? Where's the intellectual rigour?
Posted by Vanilla, Sunday, 24 February 2008 2:54:43 PM
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