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Gaiaguys did not remove the material
The OTO then went back to the Tribunal, on the basis that the Gaiaguys were 'in contempt' of the Tribunal for not removing the material from their website.
The Tribunal issued a warrant for their arrest on 3rd October and they were brought to Melbourne for a hearing on 27 November 2007.
The OTO media release says that FOUR police were sent from Victoria to NSW to bring them to Victoria!
Question: Who is paying for all this? Answer: You and I!
Devine and Legg were asked if they would remove the material and they declined.
They were ordered to attend VCAT the following day - they did not appear.
The Tribunal Member, Judge Harbison, found them guilty of contempt and ordered them to serve NINE MONTHS in prison (she had the power to sentence them to up to FIVE YEARS!)
She noted they had the ability to 'purge their contempt' (apologising or complying with the Tribunal's ruling.)
Decision at http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2007/2470.html


During January Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg were arrested in NSW and brought to Melbourne and put in prison.
They both remain in prison but have both been moved to country medium security prisons.
The hearing next week will determine what happens to them. They could apologise or seek to appeal to the Supreme Court - or stay in prison!


As we said above, we do not support all the statements made by Gaiaguys - or their decision not to attend the Tribunal.

But the question remains - what is the jurisdiction of VCAT?
If it stretches to NSW, does it stretch overseas as well?

AND back to the original question....
Can a person be sent to jail for not complying with the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act?
The answer is YES.

We still believe the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act is unnecessary and divisive and should be repealed.
Robust debate on a wide range of issues is needed now more than ever.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 21 February 2008 5:34:09 PM
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Vanilla " we're arguing with you because you're wrong."

Ahahaha!! I know you are but what am i?

GI Jane: I agree about PC b.s., question you're ideas about holocaust but hey, you and whoever else is perfectly welcome to express them. I might even be willing to look at them with an open mind!
Posted by The Mule, Thursday, 21 February 2008 7:26:28 PM
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Mule. So open your brain falls out?
Posted by Vanilla, Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:07:43 PM
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CJ has a very good point.. people posting hateful stuff against me.. against Christians.. and even CJ does this under his own name.. and shock horror..no one has organized a 'hit squad' to come and take him out for 'mocking the messngers of God'... hmmm perhaps this is because the Bible teaches love for enemies even when/if you don't agree with them.

It also teaches 'speak the truth....in love' but the last bit seems to always get lost in the first bit :) at least in the minds of some senstive sheltered readers.

Robert is a good case in point.. criticizing not just Christians but GOD Himself.. and who is trying to track Rob down ? err.. not me, nor runner..not Grey.. nope.. none of us..

But when one criticizes a certain other belief system.. aah.. well just drawing a cartoon in Denmark earned the cartoonist a plot to murder him.. thwarted fortunately.. and then there is Theo.. and others..

CJ is just trying to get people killed.. whether he realizes it or not. Lets hope he does not, because if he does.. his suggestions take on a very VERY dark and decidedly evil complexion.

CJ.. sometimes you make as much sense as my 11month old grand-daughter in the background.. dadahadadadaaadadaddaadada on 2nd thoughts .. she is brighter :)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:36:47 PM
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As I've written in another post:

"Blessed are you when people hate you, And when they exclude and insult you, and denounce your name as evil on account of the Son of Man."

Within this sentence, Jesus condemns bigotry and persecution in his name, which happens to define the actions of certain people on this Forum who ironically embrace Christianity -- the teaching of Christ.

But then, I suppose we can't really blame those people because the Bible they use is known as the "Fake Bible Which I Made Up to Suit My Bigotry: Large Print Edition."

Ah well, such is Freedom of Speech!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:55:54 PM
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Vanilla: :)

I have heard a lot of conspiracy theories, and lived to tell the tale. I guess its easier to look on with a bemused smile if the topic at hand is not personally relevant though.
Posted by The Mule, Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:59:06 PM
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