What if men could have children without women?

I don't mean parthenogenesis or creating synthetic sperm or anything like that (aren't synthetic plants wonderful and genetically superior to the natural plants...ah hell who am i kidding...)

I mean what if our species could enjoy all the evolutionary advantages of sexual reproduction without the need to have women around.

See:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/inconceivable-482509.html

SNIP

Soon, it may be possible for any couple - gay, straight, infertile - to create a baby that carries both parents' genes.

Imagine your street 20 years from now. Your kids may have grown up and left home, but who might be living next to you? It could be a young gay couple and their biological son - created from the vast reserves of frozen, cloned eggs and raised in a lab. The family on the other side may have a healthy daughter, created in the same process when sperm from the father was inserted into a cloned egg created from the original eggs of the now mother.

END SNIP

Gay men wouldn't have to "waste" half their income on their wives needs. They could outbreed heterosexual men.

To the extent that sexual orientations are inherited it may be not the "meek" but gay men who inherit the earth.

On the other hand maybe some remaining heterosexual men will want to keep a few toy girls around to provide sexual gratification.

Just more proof that the perversion of peoples minds have been achieved by our social engineers.

"Gay men wouldn't have to 'waste' half their income on their wives needs?" come on ... I wonder how much Elton John spends on his partner's needs? or for that matter - how much I spend on my husband?
It's all relative isn't it? You spend because ... well, because you want to. You want to spoil your partner just a teensy bit - not matter what gender they are. Besides, nowdays - some females can earn more than their husbands/partners. The playing field is becoming slightly more level.

Are women necessary? About as much as men are. It's a matter of personal choice either way.

"I dress for women, but I undress for men," said a famous Hollywood
actress. Whereas Pablo Picasso was quoted as saying, "There are only two kinds of women - goddesses and doormats."

Whereas, Walt Disney once said, "Girls bored me - they still do. I love Mickey Mouse more than any woman I've ever known."

My fantasy is, my husband doesn't love me for my mind ...

OLO really does tackle the big issues. :)

Dear pelican,

That's because Everything is worth talking about (smile).

Well of course women are necessary!

Who else would do the washing, ironing, cleaning etc? :)

Men: An inconsistent animal who insists on hotel service at home.

Foxy

Na, Its all through the eyes of the beholder.

My cook and housekeeper are both men and I wouldnt be without them.

My Gardner on the other hand is a lady because they seem to appreciate and care for nature and things of beauty more.

Perhaps it has something to do with genes:)

Dear PALE&IF,

It is in the genes. The (Australian) electorate wants in their leaders, intelligence, common sense, honesty and creativity - an unusual combination of virtues more likely to be found among women than men.(smile).

Foxy
Good One!

What is the difference between men and government bonds?
Bonds mature

Its ok ladies, we men understand.

We understand that you are happiest, dreaming away, muttering away
and complaining to each other, usually about men. Good old
girltalk, it happens all the time.

One would think that nobody ever explained to you,
what the letters in "wife" stand for :)

So best we get on with running things, whilst you get
on with feeling better whilst complaining to each
other, while you do the housework :)

Yabby I was tempted to refer to your previous post and change cleaning to its correct value. I am pleased you corrected it without me.

As to ladies (I do not involve myself with “women”),

Oh any woman who does not know the difference between a woman and a lady, is obviously not a lady.

And any man who does not treat a “woman” as a “lady” is obviously no gentleman (even if he does take half his weight on his elbows)

But are ladies necessary?

Of course not. Ladies are absolutely dispensable.

However, they are desirable.

Oh yes, to this old fellow they are.

It is simple, ladies are on my list of wants, not necessities or necessaries.

Ladies are up there with the finer things of life they should not be seen as one of the staples of utilitarian subsistence.

(for the equine inspired, a lady is something to be desired and mastered, like a fine mare).

And any gentleman who treats a lady as some form of female utility deserves to lose both her and the respect of his peers.

Col, I thought you were Gay?

Yabby
Wrong as usual but why would that surprise me.

Foxy
I decided to do some research giving your post futher consideration.-


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22960784-29677,00.html

Men are funnier, but their jokes are about aggression Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print December 22, 2007
LONDON: Men are naturally more comedic than women because of the male hormone testosterone, an expert has claimed.

Men made more gags than women and their jokes tended to be more aggressive, researcher Sam Shuster, of Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital, said.

The unicycling doctor observed how the genders reacted to his "amusing" hobby. Women tended to make encouraging, praising comments, while men jeered. The most aggressive were young men, he told the British Medical Journal.

Previous findings have suggested women and men differ in how they use and appreciate humour. Women tended to tell fewer jokes than men and male comedians outnumbered female ones.

Research suggests men are more likely to use humour aggressively by making others the butt of the joke.

And aggression has been linked by some to testosterone exposure in the womb. Professor Shuster believed humour developed from aggression caused by male hormones.

He documented the reaction of more than 400 individuals to his unicycling through the streets of the northern English city of Newcastle upon Tyne.

About half of people responded verbally, more being men. Very few of the women made comic or snide remarks, while 75 per cent of the men attempted comedy - mostly shouting out "Lost your wheel?", for example.

Young men in cars were particularly aggressive. This type of behaviour decreased among older men who offered more admiring comments.

"The idea that unicycling is intrinsically funny does not explain the findings," Professor Shuster told the BBC.

The simplest explanation, he said, was the effect of male hormones such as testosterone.

Nick Neave, a psychologist at the University of Northumbria who has been studying the physical, behavioural, and psychological effects of testosterone, suggested men might respond aggressively because they see the other unicycling man as a threat, attracting female attention away from themselves.

Rainier “Col, I thought you were Gay?”

I can understand how you would make that error rainier.

As it seems in most things, your limited comprehension ensures the misinterpretation of the fundamental and basics.

I could similarly cast dispersions on your sexuality but that would presume you had any.

I guess, when it comes down to it you exhibit as a classic example to the merits of androgyny.

Now if you want to bandy words feel welcome but expect a response honed to the spirit in which you do your limited best to engage.
.
PALE I thought women and men both had levels of testosterone occurring within them.

I do know ladies are prescribed testosterone for a failing libido.

However, all the ladies I have known have been too "distracted" to laugh whilst we made love.

indeed the old saying "I have never had so much fun without laughing" comes to mind.

Most studies tend to suggest a higher level of testosterone is associated with violent behaviour (presumably as well as comedy).

I have never found an axe wielding psychopath particularly funny.

However, faced with the axe coming in my direction, I might be tempted to laugh hysterically (as I ducked) on the basis it might pacify the psycho swinging it.

Most of it also applies to being a Lady.

There are two kinds of "gentlemen." The surface Gentleman, and the real Gentleman.

(1) --- The surface Gentleman. He puts on a good show on his surface. He pretends to be a Gentleman, and likely believes he is. He has mastered the outward signs of a typical real Gentleman. He dresses in style, well, and appropriately. He has learned etiquette quite well. He follows the protocols of social interchange between people of quality. He says the right things at the right times. He will even do good things for people.

But the surface Gentleman is a phony. He is self-centered. He is not honest in his dealings. He is not sensitive to the needs of others, or how his actions may harm them. He will have fun at your expense (ill-mannered). If it suits his need or purpose, he will stab you in the back! He will speak of you or others in a demeaning or hurtful way; sometimes to their face, but usually behind their backs. He may well cheat you or others.

(2) For the real Gentleman, it is much more important to meet the fundamentals of being a real Gentlemen. Surface appearance is only secondary.

Don't be fooled by the outward appearance of a person. Look underneath. Ask "Does this person always act in the fundamentally decent ways expected of a true Gentleman?" A person who at first appears to be a Gentleman, may turn out to be an evil villain, while the "hobo" you meet, might be a true Gentleman. The great comedian and social commentator Red Skelton showed us that a hobo could be the highest quality Gentleman!

I would much rather associate with a true Gentleman who is just a plain guy on the outside (like my father), than with a man who appears on the outside to be a Gentleman, but on the inside is a selfish and mean person. In fact, my best friend ever, was a rather rough and poorly educated man on the outside, but a true Gentleman on the inside.

I have just spent 3 weeks on crutches and unable to get about the farm. I left it in the supposed capable hands of 2 males ....

Wholly crap! Its going to take 6 weeks to put everything back in order!

Dear PALE&IF,

Thanks for making me laugh.

I know why Col Rouge's ladies had a good time "without laughing.,"
while he made love to them.

They kept their eyes closed! (smile).

*I left it in the supposed capable hands of 2 males ....*

Well PF, given that you chose those two so called
capable males, clearly its all your fault due to
lack of judgement. :)

Gertrude, the days of ladies and gentlemen are from
a past era. I've seen some of those so called "ladies"
scramble for every single dollar in the divorce courts.

Sadly, thats turned many marriages into little more then a
business these days.

Col Rouge: "As to ladies (I do not involve myself with 'women')"

All the "ladies" I've ever known were women, except for a couple of drag queens. Maybe Rainier's right, since women are apparently not to your taste.

Interesting contribution from PALEIF. I bet I know what kind of "gentleman" dear old Col is ;)

Yes, they keep lawyers employed.
Yes, the contraceptive manufacturers would go broke without them.
Yes, muslim scarf-makers would go broke without them.
Yes, the Pope and his Moslem counterpart would have nothing to complain about without them.
Yes, choir boys would be in even greater danger without them.
Yes, whom could we beat up if we didn't have women?
Yes, otherwise who would like jam in the glass jam-jars that we men have to open ?
Yes, 7 of 'em proved the point, but I could never work out which one of them was, indeed, necessary. None of them liked jam.

And yes, the Great and Wonderful British Empire of Ours spread its Glorious Wings further and faster when Home had a Queen on its throne, Elizabeth I, Queen Anne, and Queen Victoria. None of them ever said, "Sorry". Or liked jam. They just demanded that their admirals and generals came home with loot and glory.

Yabby “I've seen some of those so called "ladies" scramble for every single dollar in the divorce courts”

That is one of the differences between a lady and a woman, the scambling like a goat over a mountain peak.

But when they might be dealing with a CK Morgan or rainier type would you really blame them?

I am about to be called to a friends country court case (a lady), the he wants to give her nothing and I am always of the opinion that after 12 years, she is entitled to more than that.

CJ Morgan “All the "ladies" I've ever known were women, “

But were any of those woman ladies?

And was that in the biblical sense?

“except for a couple of drag queens.”

And was that in the biblical sense?

“Maybe Rainier's right, since women are apparently not to your taste.”

As I said of rainier “As it seems in most things, your limited comprehension ensures the misinterpretation of the fundamental and basics.”

Maybe you and he share the same androgynous limitations but I bet it makes you popular among your drag queen consorts.

Col Rouge,

I found the comment directed to me extremely distasteful.
As this thread is titled 'Are Women necessary' perhaps we are off topic.
We have now ventured into a very different subject that is about; Ladies and Gentleman''

Neither Ladies nor Gentleman discuss such things you raised to women or to their mates and certainly not on a public forum in my opinion.
I am not trying to be rude or embarrass you and ‘would have appreciated it’ had you returned same to me
You may have attended university, higher education and come from a long line of intelligent and even gifted wealthy upper class.
Being a Gentleman or indeed a lady isn’t like a coat we put on and take off.
It’s who you are and what you are that makes either a lady or a woman a man gentleman or a lady. It’s not saying something to a mate or stranger or a women that you wouldn’t like being said to your daughter or mother or wife, if you have one .After saying that I realize this is just my opinion which I guess is what OLO is for.
Perhaps you dress nicely.

Steel,
I think you are in for an interesting thread. From what I have heard of childbirth your idea of men having the children would possible be welcomed by many ladies.

Ah, Sir Yabby. I hope we are not going to hear more of your snake and milking the cow theories speaking of gentlemen – which of course I am ‘not accusing you of.

I would kind of like to be able to stick around this thread instead of having to bolt.

Ladies do not scramble for every single dollar in the divorce courts. Some “women” may I agree.

Most’ ladies walk away. Of course there are always individual circumstances to be considered such as children.

Nobody should have to fight for the Dad to support his own kids either women or lady.

I understand where you are coming from and standards of our society have dropped I agree fully.

Col Rouge: “As it seems in most things, your limited comprehension ensures the misinterpretation of the fundamental and basics.”

Col, old troll, since you've presumed to lecture me about the correct use of Australian English elsewhere, allow me to point out some "fundamental (sic) and basics".

You might like to look up "woman" in the dictionary (I recommend the Macquarie dictionary, since it specifically defines Australian English, as opposed to the version to which you cling). I bet every "lady" you know fits the definition. You might like to note that the plural of "woman" is "women", even here in the colonies.

While you're at it, you might like to explore the distinction between "dispersion" and "aspersion", since you don't appear to know the difference. Check out the difference between "country" and "county" too.

You really should stick to counting beans. I'm sure you don't make such an idiot of yourself as regularly in that dreary profession as you do in this forum.

*speaking of gentlemen – which of course I am ‘not accusing you of.*

Whew, at least that's clear, for I have never claimed to be one.

The dictionary states that ladies " behave in a polite and dignified
way" Since when were your posts polite and dignified?

Now Yabby, they have never been crude or rude either. You know that. We are natural enemies in a way –you and I, so you would not expect me to be tripping over myself to be too polite either.

I appreciate the fact that you have gone to pains as well to try to follow the HKM plan which is more than others have who should have lets face it.

Had you of waited (as I ran out of space) I was ‘also’ about to say that unlike Col Rouge you have never aimed crude comments at me. Which I truly appreciate. That is despite our differences over the live animal trade.
Also you have never stooped to put the boot in when others opened car parks to complain about our tag either.

As well, just because I am a straight shooter, ride horses muster cattle still occasionally doesn’t mean a person is rough.
A day spent in the bush with some of the old aboriginal men and their woman very often is a real lesson in ladies and gentleman more often than a walk though surfers that’s for sure.

PF Sorry to hear you have broken your leg- how awful especially right now with all the fantastic work you have undertaken.

Perhaps as fellow farmer old Yabbs will ride up on his white horse and help with the farm. Mind you I don’t know what experience his has had with pigs but I guess he could always learn:)

HenryVIII,
Perhaps Elizabeth and Anne needed someone to open their Jam jars too.

PALE “I found the comment directed to me extremely distasteful.”

I am not sure what comment you are refering to.

“Neither Ladies nor Gentleman discuss such things you raised to women or to their mates and certainly not on a public forum in my opinion.”

Obviously, you exist in more rarified atmosphere than I, PALE.

But you are entitled to your opinion and so am I.

“It’s not saying something to a mate or stranger or a women that you wouldn’t like being said to your daughter or mother or wife, if you have one.”

Actually, nothing I have said is beyond what gets exchanged in conversation with my daughters, ex-wife or present partner. As for my mother, most things would fly right over her head, if she were alive to hear them.

I am not a big fan of righteous indignation. So do not expect an apology.

If you cannot deal with exchanges within an open opinion forum, I suggest you sequester yourself in the ladies lounge, away from the “rough banter” (of the public bar of opinion).

I guess you expect to be treated as an equal, well that implies accepting that some "rough fellows" might be less “genteel” than your personal expectations demand.

I suggest you decide for yourself, to participate in the hurly-burly or not.

What is not yours to decide is any attempt to dictate or censor how I construct my posts.

CJ Morgan, every time you post, you regurgitate the same old drivel, never anything new.

I have answered the range of topics which your limited ability can muster to ask already. I do not intend to repeat myself yet again, I know when dealing with a retard it is necessary to repeat things but you do exceed the expected demands of the most limited.

Col Rouge: "So do not expect an apology"

I doubt that you've apologised to anybody for anything in your entire, miserable life.

"I know when dealing with a retard it is necessary to repeat things"

Indeed. I repeat, you really are an offensive bastard, aren't you?

Besides which, if I'm a retard but have a superior command of English to you, what does that make you?

*We are natural enemies in a way -you and I, so you would not expect me to be tripping over myself
to be too polite either.*

Ah, but I thought that ladies were polite and dignified :)

Gertrude I don't see you as an enemy, for I do not bother to
waste energy hating others, its rather pointless.

I just see you as deluded, naive and highly hormonal. If you had
had a couple of kids, perhaps the focus of your life would be
quite different. The realities of life prevail, closing you eyes and
wishing things to be different, is not going to change them.

Regarding the bits about sex, it seems that you represent the
old school of prudishness, whearas people like me grew up with
the hippie generation of the 70s, where people threw out Queen
Victoria, burnt their bras and today treat sex as little different from
eating dinner, ie its perfectly natural and normal. People are free
to talk about it, no different to talking about good food. Today's world
is not the same as yesterday's world. Some people can deal with
it, some can't, each to their own.

Yabby

Being polite and dignified doesn’t mean that the other person can not hold their own opinions.
There you go again as usual misquoting me. I didn’t say I hated you, but you know, I hate what you do and support. I utterly detest the cruel live trade as does the RSPCA.

It isn’t myself who is deluded Yabby, rather your buddies, who seem to think, that the Department of foreign affairs steering Austrade to promote co joint ventures in the ‘reverse’ of Australians interest "wont be a political issue in this age."

That may have worked with the “old boys club the National Club” but with fresher and ‘younger blood now involved you old timers’ are nearing the end of your days ;)

Wow an old hippie ah. You are old hat and no cattle Yabbs, I’ve always said it;)

Neither am I simply wishing things were different but working to bring different arrangements – there is a difference.

Regarding the other, *despite being much younger, than yourself, I am rather fond of the Queen.

http://www.livexports.com/queen.html

Nor did I or would I try to impose my views or tell yourself or Col Rouge or anybody else what you could say.


I have read several of your comments about the world being over populated so just look at me as someone who agrees with you.

Old school of prudishness-Yes I will nod to that but the women’s place is to have kids bit was just to dig to get me going and I am not rising to the bait.

I have children to care for. The most innocent of all. The millions of fellow creatures we share this earth with. There are also so many aboriginal kids that really need support.

Col Rouge

No I wasn’t expecting an apology. I simply shared my feelings with you.

I would like to comment that calling people retards is not something a Gentleman would say.

Although we have already established you cant make a silk purse out of a soars ear= haven`t We.

*I am rather fond of the Queen.*

*Old school of prudishness-Yes I will nod to that*

Well Getrude, you are free to chew an apple and
think of England :)

GOOD GRIEF COL..... LOOK OUT MATE !

Morgan has conjoured up a little COL doll efigy now :) He tracks your information.. pastes it all over the wall of his secret room there.. he is off his medication and sneaking back into that 'room' again.. yikes.... he realized the little voodoo pins he was sticking into his BD doll had no effect.. so now he is going for..YOU :)

If you start to feel sudden sharp pains.. without physical reason.. you'll know CJ has purchased a new book on 'spells..on steroids' gimme a call and I'll pronounce some kind of anti CJ thing for you 0_^

Sorrry CJ...sometimes I just can't resist :)

Women are very neccessay.. see..I can stay on topic.

We obviously need chicks. Look what happens when you men get together. And they say girls are bitchy.

CJ, I think it's lovely that some men call women "ladies." You can bet your bottom dollar those are the same guys who suavely ask a lady what her star sign is on RSVP.com. They all have GSOHs and enjoy foine woine (possibly a rosay?) with their ladyloves during romantic beach walks. Col is a great example of a real man who loves the ladies. On another thread he explained how his old wife got PMT, so he traded her in for a younger model. He was trying to *rile up* the feminists with his *brutally honest* commentary. I know - stud, huh?

Would this be a bad time to confess I've been known to refer to women as "m'dear"?

Oh dear. This thread has gotten quite vitriolic.

Sorry TRTL - did I nasty it up? If so, sorry Col, just jiving with you. I'm sure you're a lady magnet.

Broadly speaking, it seems that we're all in agreement that men and women find each other necessary. I don't think we really need worry about jam - we could always get it in those little plastic solo serves with peel back tops like you get in cheap hotels. But getting laid remains fun, even if you can get pregnant solo. I vote we keep each other.

Actually Vanilla, for the record, your post wasn't particularly laden with vitriol.

And I concur with your sentiments. But I still think we're needed for the jars. After all, it's all very well to have peel back tops, but what of the old musty welded on preservative jar lids, huh?
Abolishing men would waste vast quantites of vinegar soaked foodstuffs.

When the good Lord was creating women, He was into His 6th day of overtime when an angel appeared and said,
"You're doing a lot of fiddling on this one." And the Lord replied,
"Have you read the specifications on this order? She has to be completely washable but not plastic, have 180 movable parts, all replaceable, run on coffee and left overs, have a lap that disappears when she stands up, a kiss that cures anything from a broken leg to a disappointed love affair, and six pairs of hands."

"Six pairs of hands? No way!"
"It's not the hands that are causing me problems," said the Lord.
"It's the three pairs of eyes that women have to have."
"That's on the standard model?" asked the angel.
The Lord nodded, "One pair that sees through closed doors when she asks, 'What are you doing in there?' when she already knows. Another in the back of her head that sees what she shouldn't but what she has to know. And of-course, the one in front that can look at a child when they get into trouble and say, 'I understand and love you,' without so much as uttering a word."

"Lord," said the angel touching His sleeve gently, "Go to bed, tomorrow is another day."
"I can't," said the Lord,"I'm so close now. Already I have one who heals herself when she is sick, can feed a family of six on one pound of mince and can get a nine year old to have a bath."

The angel circled the model of the woman very slowly.
"It's too soft," she sighed.
"But tough!" said the Lord excitedly. "You cannot imagine what this woman can do or endure."
"Can it think?"
"Not only think, but it can reason and compromise," said the Lord.

Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek.
"There's a leak," said the angel.
"It's a tear."
"What's it for?"
"It's for joy, sadness, disappointment, pain, loneliness, and pride."
"You're a genius!" said the angel.
The Lord looked sombre.
"I didn't put it there!"

xy the male is less of a man each generation.

Are women necessart.

Hope would do us well.

Hey Trtl,

When you address women as "m'dear" do they simper coyly, toss their pretty little heads and pout or tap you roguishly with their fans?

Aaagh, mate. You should never have admitted to it. I will forever picture you now with a monocle and a leer.

PALE “I simply shared my feelings with you.”

I too can share with you PALE

“Yawn”

David_BOAZ “you'll know CJ has purchased a new book on 'spells..on steroids' gimme a call and I'll pronounce some kind of anti CJ thing for you 0”

CJ’s impotence in every other field guarantees, whatever he might conjure up is not going to have any impact which cannot be fixed with a junior aspirin

Vanilla – actually I did have a RSVP profile which I did use about 6 years ago from where I met my fiancé and then a year ago when she and I were on a “break”.

One thing I steered well away from were those ladies who were “looking for walks of the beach” or “a glass of red wine in front of an open fire” and if I read anything to do with star signs I assigned them to the out-with-the-pixies list. I figured that I, being someone who has been around the place for more than a few years would be better off with someone who was not still seeking a relationship with a cliché.

I stopped bothering to look at all and dated only from those who contacted me (well those who I bothered to reply to).

One of the great things with male versus female which I can confirm from experience

For ladies, the best are their teenage years, when they are chased by every available stud but it goes progressively down hill from then.

I know my brief excursion back to RSVP proved to me, for men, the best years are ahead. The “power shift“ changes through the forties. Women lose it and we fellas can pick it up, if we wish.

However now my profile is all shut. Back with the lady of my choice and equally important, she is with the man of her choice.

So I guess what anyone might surmise about me does not matter because

I could not give a rats

And that goes especially for CJM.

TRTL

M’dear?

I have often used “Yes Dear”, for dramatic effect.

Foxy, I'm sure god had all sorts of good intentions when he created
women, but clearly he is human, for when he has a bad hair day,
whew, he puts out some shocking numbers.....

They get passed around from bloke to bloke in the meat market and
everyone shakes their head.

Perhaps god is just suffering from PMT on those days, so god must
be a girl, who makes such huge mistakes sometimes and is so erratic :)

Dear Yabby,

I don't pretend to have all the answers.

If I did I'd be a man. (smile).

Ah Foxy, its great to know that you can turn to us
men, when you need some wisdom :)

Boazy: "Sorrry CJ...sometimes I just can't resist :)"

Just so long as we're clear that it's YOUR fantasy rather than mine. Remember, it's you that believes in mumbo jumbo and hocus pocus, not me.

Lady Magnet: "So I guess what anyone might surmise about me does not matter because

I could not give a rats

And that goes especially for CJM"

So I guess you're saying you don't "give a rats" when you're shown to be in error. Has Col ever been wrong?

Doesn't matter, I s'pose. He's a legend in his own mind, poor dear.

Dear Yabby,

Men who think they know it all
are a pain in the neck
to we women who really do.

Alas. T'was a bad time to admit it after all.

No monocle, no leer. Most "m'dear's" are when I'm either on the phone or even in an email, which does make a leer a tad more difficult I'm afraid.

Though I must admit, I'm not game to use a m'dear unless I know the person quite well.

Col, I've used yes dear on very rare occasions, but usually in an effort to remove any dramatic effect. Quite the opposite of your use.

It tends to backfire.

Perhaps you're on to something there...

LOL,

I've only just noticed this thread.

Nice one :-)